Search the archive:
YaBB - Yet another Bulletin Board
 
   
 
Pages: 1 2 
Send Topic Print
Bristol Airport support page (Read 787 times)
Reply #15 - Apr 2nd, 2004 at 2:01pm
RollerBall   Ex Member

 
Quote:
In my tests prior to release the only way I could solve the sinking aircraft was to do this. Not the Ideal solution I know but otherwise AFCAD seems to be unable to control the modified height.


Grin

Bird good news - sorry I thought you knew.

There's a prog called JaBBgl that now lets you change the height of any airport in a jiffy. I've used it for my old Leeds, Cambridge and Humberside sceneries and it works a total treat - one of the best little utils I've come across in ages.

Doug, you shouldn't need 2 AFCADs at all but I think this was Arno's short-term solution to the problem before JaBBgl. Obviously it's not needed now. In any case, apart from the AFCADs, in FS9 you put ALL the scenery files for an add-on scenery into its scenery folder. I've done this with my 04 Kai Tak but not the 02 version. And this included navaids (which was how I got the Kai Tak navaids working I think before anyone else had worked out how and was just waiting for Lee to do AFCAD  Wink )

Also, I've not issued them, but I found after hours of experimenting  Roll Eyes that the 02 type dynamic files (the ferries and fuel truck) which had to go in special folders in 02 also work when you bung em into the addon scenery scenery folder.

Good stuff eh? Makes it soooo much easier.
 
IP Logged
 
Reply #16 - Apr 2nd, 2004 at 2:37pm

Hagar   Offline
Colonel
My Spitfire Girl
Costa Geriatrica

Posts: 33159
*****
 
Thanks Roger. I must check out this JaBBgl you mentioned. There's certainly some clever people about. Wink

Now, if only everyone could agree on the best method for installing this stuff we might be getting somewhere. I'm not confident that will never happen. Roll Eyes
 

...

Founder & Sole Member - Grumpy's Over the Hill Club for Veteran Virtual Aviators
Member of the Fox Four Group

Need help? Try Grumpy's Lair

My photo gallery
IP Logged
 
Reply #17 - Apr 2nd, 2004 at 5:07pm
RollerBall   Ex Member

 
Smiley
Ah, Doug, this is where it's all becoming so much easier.

Like I say, AFCAD files in the scenery subfolder of addon scenery, all other files in the scenery and texture folders of the addon scenery. Nothing need go outside in the main sim except things like effects.

BUT....wait for it. Once everyone gets to grips with XML and AFCAD and Airport (not too sure about FSSC...) have been updated to be full scenery design apps, there won't need to be any more separate AFCAD files.

Everything for a new addon scenery including navaids and stuff (you haven't seen my carriers yet) will go in a SINGLE bgl file so every addon scenery will just go inside addon scenery and have only a scenery and texture subfolder. In theory there need be only 1 bgl file in scenery (in practice there will be more files for other technical reasons I won't go into) but now you see why there is the move away from BGLC to XML.

Anyone who's installed Kai Tak in 02 and then in 04 will already have noticed how much simpler the 04 install was, and it's going to become simpler still.

Only problem is, in order to go into object libraries, all new objects will have to be created in GMax. I for one don't have the time to learn what is I think a grossly over-complex object design prog so I suspect my days in scenery design are already numbered. Maybe I'll then be able to get a proper life back!  Wink
 
IP Logged
 
Reply #18 - Apr 2nd, 2004 at 5:25pm

Hagar   Offline
Colonel
My Spitfire Girl
Costa Geriatrica

Posts: 33159
*****
 
Quote:
Maybe I'll then be able to get a proper life back!  Wink

Tell me about it. Roll Eyes

Things move so fast nowadays I lost touch long ago. That's the problem with this stuff, leave it alone for a while & everything has changed when you come back to it. Shocked

Back on the subject of Birdman's Bristol update I completely unistalled it & started again. I popped the AFCAD BGL into the FS9\Addon Scenery\Scenery folder (I'm sure this would work just as well in the Bristol Airport\Scenery folder) then activated the Bristol Airport scenery to check it out.

The AI traffic was sunk in the tarmac so I used JaBBgl to raise the altitude of the default airport. The name of the file is AP947130.BGL to save you searching for it. It took a few tries before I got the hang of it. The new altitude of 192.295 seems to be about right.

...
 

...

Founder & Sole Member - Grumpy's Over the Hill Club for Veteran Virtual Aviators
Member of the Fox Four Group

Need help? Try Grumpy's Lair

My photo gallery
IP Logged
 
Reply #19 - Apr 2nd, 2004 at 5:59pm
RollerBall   Ex Member

 
Smiley
Spot on. Isn't that just a great little prog. Bet it only took you about 5 mins to do eh? Maybe a little bit longer as it was your first (and also making allowances for your advancing years..... Tongue )

Roger
 
IP Logged
 
Reply #20 - Apr 2nd, 2004 at 6:06pm

Hagar   Offline
Colonel
My Spitfire Girl
Costa Geriatrica

Posts: 33159
*****
 
Quote:
Smiley
Spot on. Isn't that just a great little prog. Bet it only took you about 5 mins to do eh? Maybe a little bit longer as it was your first (and also making allowances for your advancing years..... Tongue )

Roger

LOL Grin About 10 minutes. Roll Eyes Mind you it takes while to start up the sim each time you change something. That's my excuse & I'm sticking to it. Tongue

It's a great little program alright. I remember the name Jab from the old days. JabGau98 was the best gauge manager I ever tried.

PS. I popped the AFCAD BGL into the Bristol Airport\Scenery folder. It works just fine. This makes it even easier to install. The benefit is that it would go back to default if you deactivate the 3rd party scenery.
 

...

Founder & Sole Member - Grumpy's Over the Hill Club for Veteran Virtual Aviators
Member of the Fox Four Group

Need help? Try Grumpy's Lair

My photo gallery
IP Logged
 
Reply #21 - Apr 3rd, 2004 at 2:05pm

bm   Offline
Colonel
UK

Gender: male
Posts: 1177
*****
 
Thanks for the heads-up on that program. I'll look into it Wink

Quote:
PS. I popped the AFCAD BGL into the Bristol Airport\Scenery folder. It works just fine. This makes it even easier to install. The benefit is that it would go back to default if you deactivate the 3rd party scenery.

Don't ask why I put that extra folder in! I must have got a little confused with what I had to do to make it work!

I don't think its wise to put all the scenery into the communal addon scenery/scenery and /texture folders. This would make uninstalling a nightmare! Although putting the entire scenery folder into the addon scenery file would be better - but each to their own.......

Birdman.

PS. Long live BGLC!!! Roll Eyes
 
IP Logged
 
Reply #22 - Apr 3rd, 2004 at 2:12pm

Hagar   Offline
Colonel
My Spitfire Girl
Costa Geriatrica

Posts: 33159
*****
 
Quote:
I don't think its wise to put all the scenery into the communal addon scenery/scenery and /texture folders. This would make uninstalling a nightmare!

If you look in AFCAD Help this is what Lee Swordy recommends for installing 3rd party AFCAD files included with scenery. Not the scenery itself. I'm in no position to argue with him.

JaBBgl creates a backup copy of the default files it modifies. If you keep these in a safe place it would be a piece of cake to restore the default altitudes if you uninstall the 3rd party scenery.
 

...

Founder & Sole Member - Grumpy's Over the Hill Club for Veteran Virtual Aviators
Member of the Fox Four Group

Need help? Try Grumpy's Lair

My photo gallery
IP Logged
 
Pages: 1 2 
Send Topic Print