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Feb 5th, 2004 at 5:40pm

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What improves frame rates more, a faster processor or more RAM?
 

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Reply #1 - Feb 6th, 2004 at 5:08am

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It would be helpful to know your system stats first!
 
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Reply #2 - Feb 6th, 2004 at 12:29pm

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a cpu
 

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Reply #3 - Feb 6th, 2004 at 2:11pm

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Dell Dimesnsion
Processor:   Pentium 4 @ 2.4 GHz
RAM:            256MB* DDR SDRAM at 333MHz
Hard Drive:  80GB 7200 RPM Ultra ATA Hard Drive
Graphics:     Integrated Intel 3D AGP Graphics

*I might upgrade to 512

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Reply #4 - Feb 6th, 2004 at 5:36pm

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in that case, more ram and a non intergrated graphics card, the P4 should be just fine, of course dont know if its 800FSB or 533FSB but either way it should be good enough
 

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Reply #5 - Feb 6th, 2004 at 8:47pm

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Yeah your processor is fine.  More RAM and a good video card would do the trick.
 

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Reply #6 - Feb 7th, 2004 at 8:29pm

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Cool thanks  Lips Sealed
 

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Reply #7 - Feb 8th, 2004 at 12:51pm

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Yup, fine cpu, ram needs to be much improved..... Wink

512mb as a minimum and an FX5700 or better will bring you one hell of an improvement, no question.

Cost, about £200 if you shop about, worth every penny though.
 

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Reply #8 - Feb 9th, 2004 at 12:23am

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Just saw your system specs bm_727.

Your RAM is starving, but as the other guys have said, you need  a video upgrade as well, onboard graphics aren't up to FS2004 or similar graphics intensive software.

I love that 727 pic, and I'm gonna try Infranview for myself.   Wink
 

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Reply #9 - Feb 11th, 2004 at 3:06pm

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Cost, about £200 if you shop about, worth every penny though.

I just got a 256MB DDR memory card on sale for like $10 after a mail-in rebate! (I don't know how that translates to pounds, though)

By the way congo- Irfanview is an editor- u should get GCS (GrabClipSave) for taking the shots-http://www.simviation.com/fsdtutscreensh.htm

Can't wait to see ur shots in the screenshots forum!  Tongue
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Reply #10 - Feb 15th, 2004 at 11:38am

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My frame rate is about 15 and descents to 6 when there is bad weather. Is it my GeForce 4 ti 4200 that causes this terrible rates. Any suggestions???
 
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Reply #11 - Feb 15th, 2004 at 2:26pm

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Well it's not likely the Video card alone will take it that low in FPS.

What are your system specs?
 

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Reply #12 - Feb 16th, 2004 at 11:06am

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PIV 2.66Ghz @533Mhz FSB---768Mb PC2700 RAM---Seagate 120GB--- GeForce 4 Ti4200 8XAGP--- All other hardware isn't important for this problem.

Hope you can answer this question
 
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Reply #13 - Feb 17th, 2004 at 6:46am

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My apologies bm_727,

I hope you don't mind me posting this in for Black Thunder.........

Black_Thunder,

My spec is AMD XP2600+ 333mhz FSB, 1024mb PC2700, (I checked while the sim is running and I have around half my ram still free), 80gig Seagate HDD, GeForce 4 Ti4200 8XAGP.

You see we have a similar spec.

The following screenshot was taken over Hong Kong in FS2004, 1152 x 864 x 32 resolution, 4Sx antialiasing on, anisotropic filtering off. Everything else pretty maxed out.

Here I was getting around 18 FPS despite the dense scenery and clouds with antialiasing.

I'd say you have room for improvement.

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Reply #14 - Feb 17th, 2004 at 10:29am

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Hi Thanks. I will try your settings imediatly. I was running on 1280*1024 32bit 3linear filter . Thanks for response
 
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Reply #15 - Feb 17th, 2004 at 11:04am

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Hey no problem congo, i dont mind- after all, this is all about fram rates  Tongue
 

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Reply #16 - Feb 17th, 2004 at 11:16am

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Actually, those are my screenshot settings.

For normal flying, I use either 1024x768x32 with Antialiasing ON, or 1152x864x32 with Antialiasing OFF, this usually gets me around 25 FPS in dense scenery.

If the weather is thick with cloud, I have to get rid of the Antialiasing or FPS goes down the drain. That's when I switch to 1152x964.

If the weather is fine with a few clouds, 1024x768 with antialiasing on gives me 25 FPS, looks fine to me, and is good enough for screenshots really.

I mainly use the above mentioned mode (in my reply above- 1152x864x32 Antialiasing On) when I want a really nice screenshot.

It's a bit of a pain having to switch resolutions depending on the scenario, but good graphics card here in Australia is over $800, so I'll put up with it 'til prices drop.   Smiley

I've tried a lot of promising tweaks, but for one reason or another, I haven't had a lot of success without losing graphic quality in fs9.

I did replace my water textures, I cant remember where I got them. They are a re-edit of Bill Lyons and friends excellent water replacement textures. Re-edited by spitroast and Lemoncat.

I tried the FPS fix for clouds, ie. new cloud textures, it worked great, but..... the quality went down too far for my liking, many wouldn't notice though.

I tried the AUTOGEN fix, where you basically delete the contents of the autogen folder, thus removing all the restaurants and signs for the shops etc. This didn't have any measurable impact at any level that I could see on my rig.

Game settings do have a major impact:

Draw distances, Autogen density, cloud density/detail, screen resolution and effects seem to have FPS impacts I can control and balance, while maintaining Maximum terrain detail, texturing and aircraft rendering.

hope that helped
 

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Reply #17 - Feb 17th, 2004 at 3:37pm

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Yeah i agree. why does the graka's have to be so expensive Angry. If I could pay it I also bought a new graka  Roll Eyesbut until that I hang on with minimum FPS Embarrassed
 
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Reply #18 - Feb 18th, 2004 at 2:44pm

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PIV 2.66Ghz @533Mhz FSB---768Mb PC2700 RAM---Seagate 120GB--- GeForce 4 Ti4200 8XAGP--- All other hardware isn't important for this problem.

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You don't say if your using '98 or XP, if your running '98 reducing your RAM to 512 will give more performance! - '98 was'nt designed to handle more than 512MB, hence problems if you have over 512MB. Hope this helps.

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