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Reply #15 - Mar 17^th, 2004 at 10:13am

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Basically,but what about nuclear weapons?

One bomb - one million lives.

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Reply #16 - Mar 17^th, 2004 at 10:37am

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Basically,but what about nuclear weapons?

One bomb - one million lives.

I had the same thought. Roll Eyes

I think Woody is referring to "conventional" warfare.

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Reply #17 - Mar 17^th, 2004 at 2:02pm

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Even with nuclear bombs. It's going to take a lot of nuclear bombs to take an army the size of chinas down to the size of say the USA's.

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Reply #18 - Mar 17^th, 2004 at 2:05pm

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I was wondering, does any other country in the world treat its heroes in the same way as Britain? Two classic examples are the way the men most responsible for victory in the Battle of Britain were sacked in virtual disgrace at what should have been their finest hour.

I've always believed this was due to jealousy on the part of their rivals & is a national disgrace. Depite both being eventually proved right they never received the official credit they deserved - yet as true gentlemen & loyal officers they accepted their fate without criticising others. Theirs was by no means an isolated case & there are many more examples. I'm ashamed that this was allowed to happen. Sad

One situation that comes to my mind is Admiral Kimmel and General Short who were in charge in Hawaii during the Pearl Harbor raid. I read a book titled "Day of Deceit" by Robert Stinnett, who claims to have researched recently unclassified documents which prove that President Roosevelt had created a plan to get America into the war by provoking the Japanese to attack. He knew that if the allies fell we would most likely have to face them on our own. However the majority of Americans were against participating in any foreign wars and something had to be done to rally support. Kimmel and Short were kept in the dark about any of these plans and became scapegoats for the disaster. Last thing I heard is that their families are still trying to clear their names. Very interesting reading although I do still take it with a grain of salt.

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http://www.liberty-tree.org/ltn/dayofdeceit.html

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Reply #19 - Mar 17^th, 2004 at 2:51pm

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Very interesting Jim but like you I tend to be sceptical. I've heard similar rumours before & it's amazing what comes to light when top secret documents finally see the light of day. Many of the stories I once believed about WWII in my own country have turned out to be pure propaganda or worse. There are also all sorts of conspiracy theories still going round today. This is what makes it so difficult to unearth the truth. It's quite likely we never will in some cases as the people involved have passed away.

I was reading another theory about the disappearance of bandleader Glenn Miller only the other day & immediately dismissed it as bunkum.

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Reply #20 - Mar 17^th, 2004 at 2:59pm

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Even with nuclear bombs. It's going to take a lot of nuclear bombs to take an army the size of chinas down to the size of say the USA's.

Ten to fifteen...

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Reply #21 - Mar 17^th, 2004 at 4:02pm

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Ten to fifteen...

And when you remember that almost every country on earth now has nukes, they'll be firing them back. Which will only be about one or two before the fighting capabilities of the technoligically advanced country are destroyed. Wink

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Reply #22 - Mar 17^th, 2004 at 4:31pm

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And when you remember that almost every country on earth now has nukes, they'll be firing them back. Which will only be about one or two before the fighting capabilities of the technoligically advanced country are destroyed. Wink

Just hope against hope that this never happens. If it ever does we're not likely to be around to discuss these things. Roll Eyes

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Reply #23 - Mar 17^th, 2004 at 5:01pm

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Thank goodness most people grasp the concept of MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction)! I'm a little in doubt about N.Korea though, my uncle having given me some somewhat biased views of his holiday there in the early 50's... Oddly enough he liked his Chinese captors though Roll Eyes

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Reply #24 - Mar 18^th, 2004 at 4:15pm

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I'm a little in doubt about N.Korea though, my uncle having given me some somewhat biased views of his holiday there in the early 50's... Oddly enough he liked his Chinese captors though Roll Eyes

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Well, am I right thinking that the Chinese did a certain amount of brain washing of POW's...

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