Simviation Forum - Walther P.38 Semi-Automatic Pistol

Jan 26^th, 2004 at 5:34pm

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So why do they call it a "Luger"?

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Reply #1 - Jan 26^th, 2004 at 5:45pm

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Quite simple really. They don't.

The Walther P38 and the Parabellum P'08 (aka Luger) were two very different guns. Wink

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Reply #2 - Jan 26^th, 2004 at 5:57pm

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Well, shows how much I know about guns... Better stick to aircraft. Tongue

So... Why do they call that gun a Luger?

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Reply #3 - Jan 26^th, 2004 at 6:07pm

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Dunno. Probably because Luger is easier to say that Parabellum P'08.

It should be noted though that the P38 was an intended replacement for the Luger.

Now you know as much as I do on this subject. Grin

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Reply #4 - Jan 26^th, 2004 at 6:24pm

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http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg67-e.htm

Basically, the Parabellum P.08 is also called a Luger because it was developed by Georg Luger.

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Reply #5 - Jan 27^th, 2004 at 5:51pm

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I consider that a complement Woodlouse! Wink

Thanks Felix, one more handy bookmark on World War II! Cheesy

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Reply #6 - Jan 28^th, 2004 at 10:17am

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Me Old Flight Sergeant would roll over in his grave if he heard someone call a rifle, pistol or revolver a GUN Grin

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Reply #7 - Jan 28^th, 2004 at 4:49pm

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Me Old Flight Sergeant would roll over in his grave if he heard someone call a rifle, pistol or revolver a GUN Grin

LOL

Being naturally curious I typed gun in Dictionary.com. This is the first entry.
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gun
n.
A weapon consisting of a metal tube from which a projectile is fired at high velocity into a relatively flat trajectory.
A cannon with a long barrel and a relatively low angle of fire.
A portable firearm, such as a rifle or revolver.
A device resembling a firearm or cannon, as in its ability to project something, such as grease, under pressure or at great speed.
A discharge of a firearm or cannon as a signal or salute.
One, such as a hunter, who carries or uses a gun.

A person skilled in the use of a gun.
A professional killer: a hired gun.
The throttle of an engine, as of an automobile.

I like this one. Wink

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The word gun was in use in England for an engine to cast a thing from a man long before there was any gunpowder found out. --Selden.

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Reply #8 - Jan 28^th, 2004 at 5:41pm

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I've heard some strange military terms. There is no such thing as a rope on a ship (this may be a nautical term and not a military term. As a former boat owner I can attest to its truth). Excepting submarines, there is no such thing as a boat in the navy.

My father in law told me a little rhyme about military weapons:

This is my rifle,
This is my gun,
One is for shooting,
One is for fun.

So what do they call a handgun in the military - sidearm, pistol?

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Reply #9 - Jan 28^th, 2004 at 7:44pm

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Actually, I was thinking about that. What makes a gun, cannon, pistol, artillery piece, mortar peice, machine gun, sub machine gun different from each other? Some pairs seem to be the same! (Tank/Anti-Tank)

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Reply #10 - Jan 28^th, 2004 at 7:53pm

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Sidearm: Can either be a rifle, pistol, revolver or shotgun but a weapon that can be carried by a person.

Pistol: is magazine fed and usually the magazine slides into the handle of the weapon.

Revolver: the cartridges are placed unless you use a speed loader into a revolving cylinder which flips shut.
Most revolvers hold six rounds.

Pistols, Revolvers, and Rifles are usually equipped with a grooved barrel (or rifled barrel) depending on whom you talk to.

Shotguns are usually smooth bore (no spiral grooves or rifling) inside the barrel.

There are many weapons used by special force units that operate in many different ways and I am not privy to that information.

I sometimes carry a licenced revolver and a licenced rifle when I fly depending where I am going. I try to shoot twice a month at our rod and gun club.

The above terms were what I was taught when I was in the Air Force many years ago and they are the terms taught at most civilian training facilities to-day. At least they were as of yesterday

. I can not speak for the military as I have been discharged to many years.

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Reply #11 - Jan 28^th, 2004 at 8:00pm

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I do believe there are Boats in the Navy.

I was told Ships carry Boats. I take it they are referring to lifeboats.

Thanks to the Titanic All Commercial Ships must carry lifeboats.

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Reply #12 - Jan 29^th, 2004 at 4:26am

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I do believe there are Boats in the Navy.

This is a good point. The RN used Motor Torpedo Boats (MTBs) during WWII. I believe that JFK served in something simliar in the US Navy known as a PT Boat. I'm sure that light craft are used by most services these days. I assume these are also called boats.

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Reply #13 - Jan 29^th, 2004 at 4:21pm

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I do believe there are Boats in the Navy.

I was told Ships carry Boats. I take it they are referring to lifeboats.

Thanks to the Titanic All Commercial Ships must carry lifeboats.

Cheers....Happy Landings....Doug

Actually, before Titanic all commercial ships had to carry lifeboats. After Titanic all commercial ships must carry enough lifeboats for everyone on board. Wink

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