Simviation Forum - ATOMIC BOMB

Jan 23^rd, 2004 at 9:30pm

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Is there a atomic bomb weapon pack out there for download?? If there isn't would it be smart if I made one? (The explosive power might be too large making the game too easy and screwing up the game, which is not smart ???)

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Reply #1 - Jan 23^rd, 2004 at 10:56pm

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I'm not sure if this is what your looking for, but there's an outfit called GMX Media who just released a CFS3 addon called "Firepower". The addon package has an A-bomb in it with effects. Check it out in the latest copy of 'PC Pilot' or at GMX's website: www.gmxmedia.net/firepower

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Reply #2 - Jan 23^rd, 2004 at 11:32pm

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Actually check out the latest copy of Computer Pilot, they do a good spread on FP.

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Reply #3 - Jan 24^th, 2004 at 12:59am

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You mean one of these. This is me flying off in the distance as my wingman nukes a target.

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Reply #4 - Jan 24^th, 2004 at 3:55pm

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Does it actually destroy everything in the blast radious?

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Reply #5 - Jan 24^th, 2004 at 4:38pm

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"Does it actually destroy everything in the blast radious?"

Yes - roughly about a 2km radius. There are three abombs simulated: The Fatman, LittleBoy, and Virus House (listed from most powerful to least powerful).

FirePower has re-designed all weapon data quite dramatically from the stock settings, while keeping gameplay in check. When you get used to using 250lb bombs, then move to the 500, 1000, and 2000, you really get a sense of how powerful the larger bombs were. Still, it would take countless hits from even a 2000lb bomb to completely take out a larger facility (as in reality). Then you experience the 22,000lb Grand Slam carried by the Lancaster, and you can see how useful that must have been by just decimating not only large targets in one hit, but the area around it too.

Once you are all used to those bombs, then you drop a nuclear bomb, and can really understand just how powerful they are, even these WWII-era ones. By today's standards, these three would be considered tactical nuclear bombs.

For a complete spread, go to www.shockwaveproductions.net, and click on the nuclear bomb picture.

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Reply #6 - Jan 24^th, 2004 at 5:57pm

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Where do I download these aircraft and atomic bombs? I have looked on the sites above but it is just info or movies. It looks awsome plus I want the B-29 and the Lancaster.

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Reply #7 - Jan 24^th, 2004 at 10:44pm

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Hmmmmmmmmm..............Looks like fun!!!

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Reply #8 - Jan 24^th, 2004 at 11:02pm

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Where do you download these aircraft and atomic bombs? Ahhhhh....there's the rub! They're payware and available from the GMX Media site posted above (look for the 'purchase' tab in the upper right hand corner). Sorry about that.

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Reply #9 - Jan 25^th, 2004 at 7:35am

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Anyone wanting to purchase FirePower should order it from the following site:

http://shop.game.net

The company "GAME" is Europe's largest game retailer, and have an excellent online shipping system.

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Reply #10 - Jan 25^th, 2004 at 11:26am

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Then you experience the 22,000lb Grand Slam carried by the Lancaster, and you can see how useful that must have been by just decimating not only large targets in one hit, but the area around it too.

Actually, the Grandslam was a pinpoint deep penetration bomb designed to get through 30 feet of ferro cement before detonating. What it did was get dropped from 18,000 feet, then as it fell it went vertically downwards and span around so essentially you had a ten ton bullet that was going faster than the speed of sound. The casing surrounding the bomb was made of a specially made flawless steel so that it would not break up on impact. This made it possible for the bomb to penetrate at least 30 feet of concrete or 100 feet into earth. When the bomb detonated it made a crater 100 yards across and 200 feet deep. Far better than an A bomb. Grin

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Reply #11 - Jan 25^th, 2004 at 4:48pm

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"Actually, the Grandslam was a pinpoint deep penetration bomb designed to get through 30 feet of ferro cement before detonating."

Absolutely - a choice weapon for sub pens. All of this data is taken into consideration when creating the damage values.

Even general purpose bombs that exploded at impact had a much lower blast radius effectiveness than reflected in so many flight simulations. We consulted with actual bomb blast test data of various weapons, measuring air pressure at specific distances, and then cross-referenced military values for different target types and materials.

Almost every target, vehicle, ship, aircraft, and weapon was matched up and tested against this data.

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Reply #12 - Jan 25^th, 2004 at 5:28pm

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Absolutely - a choice weapon for sub pens. All of this data is taken into consideration when creating the damage values.

Actually, Subpens were usually despatched with Tallboys. Grandslams were only used on Subpens in Hamburg where the Germans made the subpens there a lot tougher than the french ones. Grandslams were used for the really "special" raids. Such as destroying the V3 facility inside the Saumer tunnel and the Bielefeld Viaduct.

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Reply #13 - Jan 25^th, 2004 at 5:30pm

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And I forgot to say, that second Atomic Bomb picture is absolutely superb. Its how a nuclear weapon detonation should look like. But one thing, does it air burst?

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Reply #14 - Jan 25^th, 2004 at 8:34pm

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You have the choice to use the Grand Slam against a sub pen, and do not have to stick to what was done historically. Some buildings were so well protected they could actually survive a direct hit from a Tallboy. I think if some of those raids were done over, they may have opted for the Grand Slam if they were available.

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Reply #15 - Jan 25^th, 2004 at 8:35pm

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No, the abomb does not air burst. I do not believe this weapon function is supported in CFS3, however the damage radius is based on an airburst so the end result is basically the same.

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Reply #16 - Jan 26^th, 2004 at 5:53pm

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You have the choice to use the Grand Slam against a sub pen, and do not have to stick to what was done historically. Some buildings were so well protected they could actually survive a direct hit from a Tallboy. I think if some of those raids were done over, they may have opted for the Grand Slam if they were available.

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Even the sub pens at Hamburg remained standing after a Grandslam attack. The point is that the building its self might survive but it would be completely destroyed on the inside. It was said that a near miss by a Tallboy or Grandslam would be more effective than a direct hit due to the fact that it would weaken and possibly destroy the foundations to the building. Therefore causing it to fall down. Wink

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Reply #17 - Jan 29^th, 2004 at 9:09pm

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ok ok I want the bomb. But HOW LONG do we have to wait for them to be free?????????

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Reply #18 - Jan 29^th, 2004 at 10:09pm

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Here's a movie showing three different FirePower abomb explosions:

MOVIE DOWNLOAD:
http://208.50.7.66/shockwave/firepower/movies/abomb.zip

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Reply #19 - Feb 6^th, 2004 at 5:43am

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Can I ask what an 'airburst' is ???. Originally I thought you meant a blast wave type of thing but When using standard bombs in CFS3 you usually get flipped if your too close to the explosion.

Also, wasn't the Granslam bomb designed to penetrate the Big Dams that the Dam Busters took out?

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Reply #20 - Feb 6^th, 2004 at 4:46pm

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An airburst is when the bomb detonates before hitting the ground. The Hiroshima bombs were set to detonate at about 2000 feet I believe. I assume this was to make the most of the blast radius, as no doubt buildings would have slowed it down and lessed the damage.

The Upkeep mines were used on the dams. The grandslam was a deep penetration "earthquake bomb" used to decemate any building you care to name.

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Reply #21 - Feb 7^th, 2004 at 9:09pm

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OK so I guess I have to PAY just for a simple bunch of numbers. I might as well learn how to make one myself!

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Reply #22 - Feb 8^th, 2004 at 1:03pm

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Can I ask what an 'airburst' is ???. Originally I thought you meant a blast wave type of thing but When using standard bombs in CFS3 you usually get flipped if your too close to the explosion.

Also, wasn't the Granslam bomb designed to penetrate the Big Dams that the Dam Busters took out?

The bomb for the Dambusting was the "Upkeep"

Take a look here....
http://www.computing.dundee.ac.uk/staff/irmurray/bigbounc.asp#bounce

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