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Jan 16th, 2004 at 1:27pm

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I would like to know if anyone can direct me to a site where I can find the following aircraft:

Handley Page Hastings (Not FS5 I know where I can   find that one)

Vickers Varsity
Shorts Belfast
Avro Anson/Oxford

Seamew (Not FS5 - I know where I can find that one)

and the following specific repaints:

Skyraider (In FLeet Air Arm colours)
Any repaints Royal Singapore Flying Club (of which I was a member 1965 - 1967)
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Reply #1 - Jan 16th, 2004 at 1:37pm

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I would like to know if anyone can direct me to a site where I can find the following aircraft:

Handley Page Hastings (Not FS5 I know where I can   find that one)
www.flightsim.com, but could be on here too
[quote[Vickers Varsity [/quote]http://www.btinternet.com/~rick.piper/index.htm
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Bristol Belfast

Seamiew (Not FS5 - I know where I can find that one)

and the following specific repaints:

Skyraider (In FLeet Air Arm colours)
Any repaints Royal Singapore Flying Club (of which I was a member 1965 - 1967)

no idea about the rest
 

Russian planes: IL-76 (all standard length ones),  Tu-154 and Il-62, Tu-134 and An-24RV&&&&AI flightplans and repaints can be found here
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Reply #2 - Jan 16th, 2004 at 2:45pm

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Any repaints Royal Singapore Flying Club (of which I was a member 1965 - 1967)

Hi Lawyer. Completely off-topic but I met a member of this club when I worked at Shoreham Airport in the early 1960s. His name was something like Rayner, maybe you knew him? He had picked up a brand new Piper Comanche from the factory in the US. It was fitted with tip tanks & he had flown it across the Atlantic. He passed through Shoreham on his way out to Singapore. I had the keys to the aircraft in my pocket over the weekend so I could repicket it if necessary. He rewarded me with a flight in the aircraft & a handsome tip. Wink

Sorry, apart from the ones Ivan suggests I can't help with the aircraft. I think I've seen a Belfast somewhere but forget now. It was manufactured by Shorts, not Bristol, if that's any help. You don't say which sim you want these for.

I would point out that it's spelled Seamew, not Seamiew. This might show up better in a search engine but apart from Mike Hill's FS5 model I've never seen another FS version.
 

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Reply #3 - Jan 16th, 2004 at 3:29pm

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Hi Hagar,

#I dont like treacle pudding by the way!!!

I guess I know the possible reason why your stated aircraft was flown out to Singapore (assuming it was about 1966) - we had a beechcraft musketeer in the club.       It crashed in the jungle on a training flight.   I remember the wreckage well in the hangar (not a pretty sight).  I trained on the old chipmunk then converted to the Cessna 150 and thence the 172.    Colours were yellow in the main with red striping.        You are right of course about the spellings (mea culpa).     You are probably right about the Belfast too.    I was stationed at RAF Changi and I remember 2 of these Belfasts came in and stayed for a short while.     Never saw a Belfast again.        I am going to modify my list because I forgot to include the Avro Anson (the first aircraft I ever flew in). Regards lawyer (Stephen)
 

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Reply #4 - Jan 18th, 2004 at 1:15pm

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Hi Stephen

Regarding the pudding, it's an acquired taste. This might also have some bearing on my age. Wink

The Comanche I'm talking about would have arrived in Singapore some time between 1960 - 62 when I left Shoreham.

Sorry. I haven't seen an Anson either. It's possible there is a CFS2 version I'm not aware of.
 

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Reply #5 - Jan 18th, 2004 at 4:22pm

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Somebody was working on an Anson for FS 2002/4. I haven't heard anything about it in a few months though  ???

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Reply #6 - Jan 18th, 2004 at 4:27pm

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Hi hagar,

The Commanche would not have been a replacement for the Beechcraft Musketerr.   Too early.    I recall I have some black and white photos of some of the aircraft and I believe at least one is the Commanche at the RSFc.   I will look them out and maybe send one on to you.    My mother died on Tuesday 13th January 2004 so I`m a little bit absorbed with the arrangements (I have to keep myself occupied otherwise and this is how I do it - apart from work!).    I will get around to looking after Thursday this week after the funeral.   Regards, Stephen (Lawyer).   

If Ivan see this, I thank you for the information.   I will check out what you say
 

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Reply #7 - Jan 18th, 2004 at 4:29pm

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To Stratobat.

Finished posting reply to Hagar and then saw your post.  Not quite used to seeing what I am looking at.   New site, new friends.    I will double check from now on.  Thanks for the information.   If you do come across the Anson later please let me know.   Regards
 

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Reply #8 - Jan 18th, 2004 at 4:48pm

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Hi everybody (again)

To let you all know.   I have found the FS2002 version of the Hastings.   I have also found the Avro Anson (Fs98 version which will be fine for now).  Ivan had it!!! on Flightsim.com

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Reply #9 - Jan 18th, 2004 at 4:55pm

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Hi Stephen. Sorry to hear about your sad loss. Sad

I would be delighted to see the photos if you can dig them out some time. Those were happy days for me. The Comanche might have been privately owned by Mr Rayner himself or another member rather than a club aircraft.

Glad you found an Anson. If it's FS98 I'm not sure what the quality will be like. You still haven't mentioned which sim this is for. Wink
 

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Reply #10 - Jan 18th, 2004 at 5:13pm

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Hello Lawyer,

I'm sorry to hear about your loss Sad

I think I saw some screenshots of the Anson at the BOAC Virtual website. I just went there and it seems like they're temperarily offline. There is a Gmax source file floating around though Grin

www.boacvirtual.fsnet.co.uk

Also have a look at the Fleet Air Arm Archive website. They have some FS stuff, but it looks like it's primarily for FS 98.

http://www.fleetairarmarchive.net/Aircraft/Models/FlightSimulatorFAAaircraft.htm...

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Reply #11 - Jan 18th, 2004 at 5:16pm

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Hi Hagar

Thanks for the acknowledgment of my loss.

I will dig the photos out soon as I get over this week.   I have one of the chipmunk (in part) with me sitting in the cockpit.    Was getting ready to start up!!!    I have a lot of slides but never got around to getting prints done.   I will do that gradually.

The Sim I am using at the moment is 2002.    I have ordered the 2004.   That said, I have all the sims after 95.
 

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Reply #12 - Jan 18th, 2004 at 5:20pm

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Hi Stratobat,

That`s a fine pictorial of the Anson!     Thank you for your trouble.   I will check out that Fleet Air Arm site.    You learn something new every day.   You should see my favourite menu for sims.   Now there`s another one.

Best wishes

Stephen (Lawyer)
 

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Reply #13 - Jan 18th, 2004 at 5:24pm

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Hello Stephen,

It's got no interior detailing though, shouldn't be too hard to add a few chairs and an instrument panel.

Do you also fly any of the Combat Flight Simulator series?

There's also a few RAF and FAA aircraft out there for CFS 2. I think they would also work in FS 2002.

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Reply #14 - Jan 19th, 2004 at 6:44am

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I didn't see anyone mention where to get a Belfast, namely www.alphasim.co.uk - it's payware (doh), but a Belfast none the less in RAF and Heavylift colours, for FS2002/2004 and about £7-8ish...

As for the others, the only one I know is the Hastings (and its numerous repaints on Flightsim.com, and FS-Berlin I think)

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Reply #15 - Jan 19th, 2004 at 1:37pm

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To Charlie,

Thanks for the information on the Belfast.   Will check that out.      

To Stratobat (Do bats fly that high?) - only kidding.
Yes, I have both CFS & CFS 2 and fly them regularly.       I have downloaded quite a few additional for both and most will work in FS2002.  The only one I really had problems with was the Thunderbolt until I found the Blue Camoflage version which works fine.

The interesting ones were the Vulcan in CFS (which flies great) and the B17 which again flies fine.

I had a lot of help from Doug Attrell in getting some of the Falklands missions to work although I am still stuck in some of the Korea stuff.   Aircraft carriers sailing through green vegetation and airfields turning up green in and around the seas.   Oh well, you cant win them all.   I`m still learning (the hard way)

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I had a lot of help from Doug Attrell in getting some of the Falklands missions to work although I am still stuck in some of the Korea stuff.   Aircraft carriers sailing through green vegetation and airfields turning up green in and around the seas.   Oh well, you cant win them all.   I`m still learning (the hard way)

Stephen. You might not realise that Doug, Hagar & Grumpy1 are all the same person. Shocked Wink

I suggest the problem with the Korean missions is that you have not installed/activated the 3rd party scenery correctly. I've been involved with the Korean campaigns for both CFS1 & CFS2 & personally configured them for posting. In both cases all required scenery is included. I prefer not to post missions/campaigns that involve downloading elements separately.
 

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Reply #17 - Jan 19th, 2004 at 3:23pm

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Hagar, Doug, Grumpy

OOPS, now the penny drops.        There I am spelling out to the world how helpful Doug has been only to find out I am praising him in person.       Well, it was well intentioned Doug.     I have been missing out on these forums because I forgot my password and the webmaster had some difficulty but I managed to re-register.    I must try not however to take up people`s time or the site`s valuable space.      I will look into the Korea anomalies and try to rectify that.     Thanks to everybody for their help and I see the thread is now up to two pages so I think I had better call it a day before I get a zero doing a fly-by the house.
 

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Reply #18 - Jan 20th, 2004 at 12:15pm

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Hi Stephen

Welcome to the forum  Smiley

I haven't been here too long myself, but there are lots of nice people around.  Grin

I only just read your post. All the answers seem to be here. I was going to help on the Hastings, Belfast and Varsity, but you have that info now. Also Rick P has done a nice Valetta if you are interested............

The Anson has been requested a few times by different people. I wonder if some-one will do a nice one for FS2002/4?

Cheers Paul
 
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Reply #19 - Jan 20th, 2004 at 2:45pm

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Hi Paulb,

Nice to meet you.   Yes, I agree, there are a nice lot of people on this site.

Honestly, I had forgotten about the old Valetta.   I was in the air force for 12 years and a lot of that time in the Middle East.    Now you mention the old crate I remember going from Aden up to Bahrain in a decrepit old Valetta full of the big brass at the time (all but myself and another `lower class`).   I remember we hit a sandstorm and we were being tossed all over the place.   The Pilot (a Flight Lieutenant) came out and said, sorry everybody, cant get any higher than 8,000 so you will have to put up with it.    We didnt have a choice did we, we couldnt get out and walk.   What was surprising was the number of `brass` that couldnt keep their sandwiches down!!!

Ought to mention that each time I try Rick P site I get the 404 error.

Everybody, my FS2004 arrived today.    Now I have to install it and see how many of my 520 other aircraft will work in it.   See you all in 2009
 

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Reply #20 - Jan 21st, 2004 at 8:01am

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Ought to mention that each time I try Rick P site I get the 404 error.


Just tried, wouldn't connect first time, but did second, seems ok...

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Everybody, my FS2004 arrived today.    Now I have to install it and see how many of my 520 other aircraft will work in it.   See you all in 2009


Cor' blimey - 520 (!?) i didn't even have that many in FS98 all those years ago!

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Reply #21 - Jan 23rd, 2004 at 5:55pm

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Hi Charlie (and everybody).   Yep, that`s what I worked it out at.    Been downloading for 3 years or so.    I am now desperate to find something I havnt got!!

Now, this may not be the best place to post this next point but as I seem to have got to know you all quite well I thought I would pick your brains on this forum.

My FS2004 (which is in Windows Explorer as FS9) is up and running.   Not quite so happy with it though.    I have cut and pasted all my 3rd party aircraft into FS2004 in one foul swoop.   There are just one or two FS5 (converted);   a fair number of FS98, 2000 and 2002.       I am now starting to try them out and finding messages coming up that the aircraft I am trying to load is incompatible and running them in FS2004 may cause FS2004 to be unstable.    Another aircraft and many many messages saying unable to load guages - that kind of thing.     Am I really making more problems for myself by using these aircraft - should I archive all these aircraft in case I want to go back to FS2002 and just download 2004 aircraft/guages for use in 2004 or can I overcome so of these problems?      One thing I noticed when trying to fly one aircraft (after ignoring the messages) was that the movement of horizon and scenery etc was very jerky (sometimes movements seem to be in spasms).    What do you guys reckon?
 

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Reply #22 - Jan 23rd, 2004 at 6:53pm

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Hi Stephen

Well, I guess that the first thing to note is that only aircraft made in FSDSV2 or G-max work properly in FS9. Knowing what tool was used to make the aircraft is usually a case of trial and error ( ie does it work properly or not  Angry). However, generally FS2000 and earlier aircraft are not fully FS9 compatible. FS2002 aircraft often are compatible, but earlier ones are usually not compatible.

In my experience, imcompatability usually extends to the flight dynamics, lack of moving parts on the aircraft (often appearing invisible) and gauge problems.

So far I have not caused any major systems problems for myself trying out the older aircraft - but others may be able to add their experiences......

My advice would be to generally restrict yourself to compatible aircraft in FS9, if only because they will work better  Grin

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Reply #23 - Jan 23rd, 2004 at 7:01pm

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Hi Stephen. I missed this somehow. To add to Paul's comments I think installing everything in one go is a very bad idea. I would always recommend doing this one at a time, checking each one out in the sim before trying the next. This would obviously take forever with the sheer number of aircraft you're talking about. Not too many are likely to be compatible with FS2004 & I suspect you will end up dumping most of them anyway. You can forget the FS5, FS98 & FS2000 aircraft + some earlier FS2002 models.  
 

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