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Jan 2nd, 2004 at 10:56pm

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im not saying this is true.... but this article sugest something thats rather interesting about hitler's whereabout's after the war..... it is in spanish, if u cant read/understand spanish Roll Eyes go to babelfish.altavista.com and tell it to translate from Spanish to English.

the article http://eltiempo.terra.com.co/cult/2004-01-02/ARTICULO-WEB-_NOTA_INTERIOR-1469640...

i'd love to hear what u guys think about this...
 

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Reply #1 - Jan 3rd, 2004 at 12:41am
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How bout you go to babblefish and then cut and paste for us?  Grin
 
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Reply #2 - Jan 3rd, 2004 at 12:52am

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Adolph Hitler would have lived his last years in Argentina

The writer and Argentine journalist Abel Basti assure in an investigation book that fled next to its Eva lover Braun there.

Hitler lived in the Patagonia after fleeing in 1945 from Germany, assures Basti in a book where, with the style of a tour guide, she reveals the places on the foot of the Mountain range of the $andes that served from refuge several ex- jerarcas Nazi.

The Hitlers and their Eva lover Braun "did not commit suicide, fled until the Argentine coasts in a submarine and lived many years" in proximities on San Carlos de Bariloche, tourist city and center of ski to about 1,350 kilometers to the southwest of Buenos Aires, indicated the journalist.

In his Bariloche book Nazi-it guides tourist, that will on sale leave the next week in Argentina, Basti reproduces documents, testimonies, photographies and planes to guide the reader (or tourist) until the places that served from refuge to Hitler, Martin Borman, Joseph Mengele and Adolf Eichmann.

It does not please the question to him if with his work defies official history on the suicide of Hitler and Eva Braun when the allied troops arrived Berlin, since she maintained that the corpses of the Führer and its lover "never were, like of many other Nazis presumably forced suicide on".

"the only official history is the report to the Kremlin of the general Jukov (commander of the Soviet Army who presumably occupied Berlin) of which the Nazi Hitlers and several heads escaped, to Spain or Argentina, and thus communicates (Jose) Stalin to the Government of the United States", assured in controversial tone.

In his book it publishes a photography of the Inalco property, located in Villa the Narrowness, to borders of the lake Nahuel Huapi, 80 kilometers to the north of Bariloche, the "refuge chosen by the Argentine Nazis to hide to Hitler and Eva Braun".

That residence, that still conserves in the middle of a leafy forest of pines and to which can only be arrived by boat or hydroplane, belonged to the Argentine industralist Jorge Antonio, one of the men of greater confidence of the three times president of this country, Juan Domingo Perón (1946-1955 and 1973-1974).

Basti mentions to Rodolfo Fraud, son del millionaire Ludwing German Fraud, like key piece - from its position of secretary of Perón- for the radicación in Argentina of Nazis, among them Eichmann, captured in 1960 the Air outskirts Good by a commando Israeli and executed two years later in Israel.

The author of the book, that has worked in several investigations on the Nazis for the European television, assures that Hitler also lived during their pass by Argentina in the property San Ramon, to 10 kilometers to the east of Bariloche, a property at that time of the German principality of Schaumburg-Lippe.

The long stretch between the possibility that the Hitlers and its lieutenants have managed to save Berlin, and sheltered in the Patagonia, for Basti German uses excessive respect itself with the "big wave of submarines" who arrived at the coasts of the Argentine south shortly after concluded World War II.

"There are many and fehacientes tests of fled from Nazis towards Argentina in coincidence with the arrival of submarines the German to the Patagonia", indicated, after remembering the "vital support" that the then Argentine Government presided over by Perón rendered "to shelter in the country the partisans of the Führer".

The Bariloche book Nazi-guides tourist, that will be complemented with the site in Internet "to www.barilochenazi.com.ar", begins with the history of the ex- captain of the feared SS Erich Priebke, extradited from Argentina to Italy in the heavy decade by its responsibility in the execution of 300 people.

Priebke, that presided over in Bariloche the Cultural Association German-Argentina, was the end of iceberg of the investigation of Basti to describe to a complex plot of companies and institutions created in the country "to only the effect of the fled one from the Nazis and to launder money of the plunderings military".

The journalist also clarifies in his book official history on the deaths of Martin Borman, the second in the Nazi hierarchy after Hitler, and of the doctor Joseph Mengele, since she reproduces testimonies and photographies that give account of the passage by Bariloche of those two criminals military.

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Reply #3 - Jan 3rd, 2004 at 7:57am

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Makes a refreshing change from the Kennedy assasination conspiracy theories like it was done to bring the Teletubbies to power in Egypt or something Roll Eyes
 

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Reply #4 - Jan 3rd, 2004 at 8:04am

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Ace. You might have more response if this was in the new History forum.

From reading all the theories (I think) I believe it's more than likely that Adolf Hitler committed suicide. This is by no means certain, just as I'll never be 100% convinced that it was Saddam Hussein's sons that were killed a few months ago. This is the problem when you don't actually capture whoever you might be after alive.
 

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Reply #5 - Jan 3rd, 2004 at 2:11pm

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well i didnt know about the history forum  Embarrassed mods please move me Grin thnx

and well, i dont trust the Ruskie's pictures, and id ont trust the americans either, and it seems logic to me for him to flee to Argentina since most of his ppl went there as well, besides... he had a lookalike!!Shocked and i've also heard that the one they found was his look alike who had been shot in the head Tongue

dunno really???
 

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Reply #6 - Jan 3rd, 2004 at 3:23pm

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I think it's like all "conspiracy theories". I feel that there is at least enough reason to doubt some "official" stories that Joe Public is expected to believe. Unfortunately we will probably never know the real truth so it's not worth bothering about. Roll Eyes
 

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Reply #7 - Jan 3rd, 2004 at 9:12pm

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In 1945 the russians were allowed the task of sieging Berlin. In the short few years of peace that Hitler was in power leading up to the second world war he had non agression treaties with Joseph Stalin a stipulation of which was that The German army would be allowed to use Russian equipment, land and Bases in order to train new recruits. This was banned by international law stemming from World War One, but russia allowed this as a means of avoiding war. After the beginning of WW2, in an ultimate act of betrayal Adolf Hitler's agressive movements into Russia and the Ukraine known as Operation Barbarosa began. In the events that followed for the next three years the number of russian soldiers and civilians killed stood even with that of the Jewish losses of the same period. (Some historians argue the number of Russian dead outnumber even that of the Jewish) This meant that there was little or no mercy in the heart any Russian Soldier fighting in Berlin. Adolf hitler and Eva braun, one day after their makeshift wedding joined together into suicide in order to avoid the harshest of punishments Russia could devise.

Many aristocratic NAZI figureheads did in fact escape to south american countries such as Argentina - Buenos Aries, however a large number of the fleeing NAZIs did so well before any occupying forces ever reached German soil, and well before Hitler in all his madness abandoned hope for repelling the allied advances.

Personally i feel that given the above information, if the Russians were just down the street, and i had been responsable for the deaths of millions of their brothers, fathers mothers and sisters the suicide option is looking pretty good about now!

Had Adolf hitler escaped to any nation with the guts enough to grant him political retreat is of little or no consequence at this point.

Adolf Hitler, born April 20th 1889 would now be approaching his 115th birthday. His fate is no longer in earthly hands Wink



 
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Reply #8 - Jan 4th, 2004 at 8:51am

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Adolf Hitler, born April 20th 1889 would now be approaching his 115th birthday. His fate is no longer in earthly hands Wink






But of course, that's just precisely where the conspiracy theorists jump in - and the cloning theory - "Boys from Brazil" and all that!   

 

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Reply #9 - Jan 4th, 2004 at 10:11am

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In the events that followed for the next three years the number of russian soldiers and civilians killed stood even with that of the Jewish losses of the same period. (Some historians argue the number of Russian dead outnumber even that of the Jewish)


Of course the russian military and civilian dead far out stripped the number of jews killed in the war. Estimates run at as many as 40 million russians dying in WWII.
 

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Reply #10 - Jan 4th, 2004 at 3:41pm

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i claim to be a study of WW2 yet i couldnt remember the exact figures on the russian losses(i thought it was somewhat lower than 40 million), i didnt want to over step any boundries which might make the jewish loss sound trivial... thanks.
 
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Reply #11 - Jan 7th, 2004 at 10:34am

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He died in 1945.  I am as certain of this as I am of the lunar landings.

I read a novel a while back, I believe it was called The Berkut, in which Hitler killed a body double and escaped, pursued by a lone Soviet specialist in that sort of thing.  The Soviet was in turn followed by an English or American spy type.

It was OK.  I won't spoil the ending for you other than to say it was not pleasant for the former Fuerher.
 
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Reply #12 - Jan 8th, 2004 at 1:05am

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Clone Hitler 1,000 times, and you will have 1,000 people that look and talk just like Hitler BUT THAT DONT ACT LIKE HIM... in my opinion A person is a result of their environment, experience and upbringing.

Most conspiracy theorists fear "Big brother" and being lied to because of some deeply rooted pathetic psycological reason that i do not even begin to care to understand. I am happy with my life, and all is well in my world as it is and if i am being lied to... well "IGNORANCE IS BLISS"
 
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Reply #13 - Jan 8th, 2004 at 3:09am

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Most conspiracy theorists fear "Big brother" and being lied to because of some deeply rooted pathetic psycological reason that i do not even begin to care to understand. I am happy with my life, and all is well in my world as it is and if i am being lied to... well "IGNORANCE IS BLISS"

I tend to agree up to a point. Sometimes it's better not to know what these people get up to in my name. However, I prefer them to be accountable & to tell the truth. Then if I disagree it is my right to say so & hopefully stop them - although I'm none too confident about that. The only reason I know for telling lies is to hide something. The capability for lying convincingly seems to be the prime qualification for a politician these days. Roll Eyes
 

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