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Dec 30th, 2003 at 3:22am

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I was watching an interview on ET earlier about Michael Jackson.  (For those of you who don't know, ET is Entertainment Tonight)  I don't regularly watch it, but I was flipping channels and this caught my attention.

Michael was saying that he didn't believe it was wrong to have children sleeping with him (he later said he gave up the bed to whatever child was sleeping there and he took the floor! Roll Eyes) and that if "you are a pedophile or a monster" it would be wrong (his words!).  The whole scene gave me the distinct impression that IF he did commit the crime, he wasn't aware of it.

One of the reporters (later in the broadcast) was interviewing a psychologist, or something like that, who said that from what she saw in the interviews with MJ, he BELIEVED what he was saying.  Now, I know there has never been any proof of his "indescretions", and that there were probably some golddiggers searching for a chunk of the money.  But it does seem odd to me that it KEEPS HAPPENING.  Most people who have seen or heard about the original accusations would most likely know that its foolhardy to accuse Jackson of these crimes when he has been vindicated on the same charges before.

Given, he does have a strange bit about him that would indicate his nature to molest children, but that goes along with the statement I made before: there are golddiggers, and they will exploit any foible they can to get to a person's money.  But what about clergymen?  They are well known for the same acts, but to date I have only heard of one priest being charged with the crimes.  Why doesn't it happen more often?

So with that said, does it seem a little strange to you that, if he did do something to whatever child is badgering him this time, that he BELIEVES he is innocent.  This is not my view on the facts, the interviewee (sp?) actually said those words.

The only theory I could come up with about it is that he is delusional when (and IF) he commits these crimes.

So, is Michael a modern day Jekyl and Hyde?
 

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Reply #1 - Dec 30th, 2003 at 3:26am

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If my daughter was molested I would persecute and prosecute the animal until he died.  No amount of money could replace my childs lost innocence I suspect strongly that if financial inducement was enough to prevent charges then the crime was unlikely.

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Reply #2 - Dec 30th, 2003 at 5:25am

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what i find funny was the fact he claimed he had his shoulder dis-located, yet on his way out he was waving fine and so on, and he showed that nasty bruise which clearly wasnt there again when he was released from jail. the guys nut case indeed.
 
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Reply #3 - Dec 30th, 2003 at 5:41am

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what i find funny was the fact he claimed he had his shoulder dis-located, yet on his way out he was waving fine and so on, and he showed that nasty bruise which clearly wasnt there again when he was released from jail. the guys nut case indeed.


Having been in handcuffs many times before, I can verify that cuffs NEVER ride up that far.  If they do, they will fall off when they fall over your wrists.

That bruise and lump were in the middle of his forarm, which means that someone hit him there.  The shape of the bruise and lump shows that.

I suggest that he's just looking for simpathy to distract from the fact that he's a complete FREAK! Wink
 

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Reply #4 - Dec 30th, 2003 at 5:46am

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I also wonder abou the kids parents. Why the hell would you let your children be around this guy? After previous charges and what not!!
That is why I think it is a money thing. Don't take me wrong I'm not defending him, but I do belive in innocent until proven guilty.
But past charges never made it to court they were paid off (settled out of court) what were these parents thinking?
If it were my child I wouldn't accept any amount of money ANY AMOUNT! As a matter of fact MJ (or whoever) wouldn't live long enough to see a trial! And the sad thing about our Justice system I would be given life in prison for murder just because I don't have millions to pay!
As for him having multiple personallities, no way!
He has done this time and again, he is a actor(showman), he knows how to get attention and that is what he wants people to belive.
I think he is showing guilt if anything. One week it is his brothers on TV, then He comes on to tell his side.
I don't think it is the money this time, because if it was he wouldn't be defending himself on national television.
But back where I started, what were the parents thinking allowing thier kids going to this guys house? After he has already been accused of this type activity.
I think the parents should be somewhat held responsible for placing their kids in a situation to where they might be in harms way!
 
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Reply #5 - Dec 30th, 2003 at 6:01am

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I would like to make it clear that I have no time for these "paedophiles". I feel as strongly as Will on this issue. In fact, giving them that name leads to a certain form of respectability & acceptance in society. I prefer to call them evil perverts or much worse.

I've always thought of Michael Jackson as strange. Let's face it, who in their right mind would allow themselves to be disfigured as he has? A once handsome black kid with everything going for him turned into some sort of zombie, looking more like his sister than a man. He is no longer black & will never be white so he is a freak. This was no doubt caused by his unusual upbringing & apparent abuse by his father. He was never allowed a childhood of his own.

I'm almost convinced he is innocent to the ways of the world & sees no harm in it. When I was young there would have been nothing wrong with having any amount of children in your bed. They certainly wouldn't have been sexually assaulted or abused in any way. Things were very different then & the reason this is regarded as suspicious now is the amount of paedophiles in our modern society.

One thing that does worry me about these allegations. Michael Jackson is extremely wealthy. He has been accused of child abuse before. So unless they're interested in his money what parent in their right mind would allow their child anywhere near him, let alone stay in his home overnight?
 

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Reply #6 - Dec 30th, 2003 at 6:06am

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Fretnstuff, I completely agree!  However:

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he is a actor(showman)


I am a trained actor for many years, and even though I can ACT as though I believe something, NO actor can stand up to a psychologist in study of that person's self.

But there is a point that a person as an actor metomorphs into a person that cannot tell the difference between reality and fantasy.

Acting, however real it may seem, is simply that: acting!  No actor BELIEVES the stories he is telling, he simply accepts them as a piece of a tale he is telling.  If Michael truly believes what he is saying, there is no way that he, as himself, did these things.

This in no way lifts the blame from his shoulders.  If anything, it intensifies it!  If he HAS performed these atrocious acts by way of alternate identities, he is still guilty of pedophilia by way of not confronting his problem when it was first made available, IE, when the first charge was issued.

I guess the reason I have been posting this is that I believe Michael Jackson to be a troubled and disturbed individual who should undergo psychological and mental evaluation before he ever steps foot in normal society again.
 

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Reply #7 - Dec 30th, 2003 at 6:42am

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I guess the reason I have been posting this is that I believe Michael Jackson to be a troubled and disturbed individual who should undergo psychological and mental evaluation before he ever steps foot in normal society again.

I suggest that if he was not Michael Jackson this would have happened long ago. His "friends", advisers & the surgeons who made him into a freak have profited by taking advantage of this poor confused & misguided soul for many years. They must bear some responsibility for what he has become. Unfortunately this is unlikely.
 

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Reply #8 - Dec 30th, 2003 at 7:49am

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giving how he acts and stuff, well i wouldnt be surprised if hes schizo or something like that.
 
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Reply #9 - Dec 30th, 2003 at 8:12am

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 I'd let Michael Jackson abuse me if I thought I could score some of his millions too.

 Seriously though, kids lie, and so far there has been no real proof that he did anything wrong to those kids who say he did things to them, and just as someone else said here, why would some kids parents let their kid spend the night at his house if they weren't looking to set him up to gain some $$$?

  Yeah, the dude is kinda weird, but I'm not convinced that he ever molested a child.
 

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Reply #10 - Dec 30th, 2003 at 4:44pm

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The guy is a child molester.


   They haven't proved that, people are just taking that opinion because he is different and they don't understand him.

  I don't know that he didn't do the things he has been accused of any more than you know for sure that he did, all I know is that until there is proof I will remain neutral.
I grew up listening to Michael Jacksons music, and even though he gets more and more strange, I still won't be convinced he is a child molester until there is absolute evidence to prove that this is true, just because he is different than what most people consider "normal" is no reason to label him.
 

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Reply #11 - Dec 30th, 2003 at 6:24pm

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Whenever I see a conversation like this, I remind myself of the old saying "There, but for the grace of God, go I..."...
All it needs is one of my aggrieved neighbours, whom I recently told off for letting his dog crap in my garden, to go to the police with the suspicion that I could be a paedophile, because I live on my own, look a bit eccentric, and own a computer...!
I could then be arrested, held in custody and my life made a misery without any evidence to the contrary.

Our American friends will recall a current case involving Scott Peterson, accused of killing his wife and un-born son, and dumping their bodies in San Francisco Bay, at the end of last year.
The flame war which errupted in the local papers was sufficient to get the KRON4 News site Forum closed down permanantly.
He has been held in custody for 12 months now, and to this day he hasn't been convicted of anything...

I tend to leave it to a Judge and Jury to convict, or acquit, a person of a crime, otherwise we back-pedal 150 years and lynch little Massa Winston in the State of Alabama all over again because he doesn't look, or act, quite like the rest of us...

I have no time for arm-chair lawyers where someones liberty is at stake, I leave it to the professionals to decide guilt or innocence in a court of Law...
You or I could be stuck in that situation, but for..etc, etc,..
I am a firm believer in the old saying, "A person is (completely) innocent until proven guilty"
In the meantime I wait for the result from the court.

...just my thoughts on the subject... Wink...!

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Reply #12 - Dec 30th, 2003 at 6:38pm

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Whenever I see a conversation like this, I remind myself of the old saying "There, but for the grace of God, go I..."...
All it needs is one of my aggrieved neighbours, whom I recently told off for letting his dog crap in my garden, to go to the police with the suspicion that I could be a paedophile, because I live on my own, look a bit eccentric, and own a computer...!
I could then be arrested, held in custody and my life made a misery without any evidence to the contrary.

Well said Fozzer. Being in the same situation myself I'm well aware of the risks. I don't dare make eye contact with a young child any more for fear of being accused of being a pervert. What a sad world we live in. Cry
 

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Reply #13 - Dec 30th, 2003 at 6:42pm

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  They haven't proved that, people are just taking that opinion because he is different and they don't understand him.

 I don't know that he didn't do the things he has been accused of any more than you know for sure that he did, all I know is that until there is proof I will remain neutral.
I grew up listening to Michael Jacksons music, and even though he gets more and more strange, I still won't be convinced he is a child molester until there is absolute evidence to prove that this is true, just because he is different than what most people consider "normal" is no reason to label him.


My thoughts entirely. One thing I learned a long time ago was - NEVER believe anything about anyone you read in any press - particularly celebrities - it's usually a pile of inaccurate doggy doo Wink

& I have long believed the same notion Jackson holds about looking into the face of a child & you are looking into the face of god. Being a dad - Children are the most inspiring humans by a long way for me. I wouldn't want kids in my bed (except my daughter, who is regularly) but it's no surprise someone like Jackson thinks this way & I can understand the notion of what he is saying. I have absolutely no reason to suspect anything sexual. 

Jackson may well be lonely & messed up - it's actually not uncommon in his line of work - He may have gone awol at the plastic surgeons - but he hasn't dosed up for years, pickled his liver or shot his head off....

& It's very surprising this sex accusation hasn't happened multiple times .... My 1st scrutiny would be on the parents of the kids... as some said above...
 

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Reply #14 - Dec 30th, 2003 at 10:20pm

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