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Reply #45 - Jan 10th, 2004 at 10:18pm

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Imagine the task of keeping the D-Day landings a secret. It would have been impossible to ensure 'absolute' security with the millions of troops stationed in Britain and all the construction and planes and equipment. the blokes responsible for the 'Pattons Dummy Army' with false radio traffic and all.  Shocked Shocked

I think they did a magnificent job at keeping the Germans, and even the Allied men guessing!!  8)

Normally, in such a huge operation, it's standard practice not so much to 'blackout' all information but rather to control certain peices of 'misinformation' and to plant false leads etc. This way, at least, if the enemy does get lucky enough to stumble onto something, they won't know if it's genuine or not.  ??? Roll Eyes

That was the problem with making the "Man with no Name" (Major Martin, who was really an unfortunate vagrant who drowned in the Thames)  plan a success. Convincing the Germans that the information was genuine!  Grin Wink
 

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Reply #46 - Jan 11th, 2004 at 9:39am

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That was the problem with making the "Man with no Name" (Major Martin, who was really an unfortunate vagrant who drowned in the Thames)  plan a success. Convincing the Germans that the information was genuine!  Grin Wink

I've seen a documentry about this and apparently Major Martin was actually Able Seaman Martin who died when his aircraft carrier exploded and sank while comming into Glasgow. Of course, thats not the official story. But it seems more true. As the body they had from london died from Neumonia and eating rat poison. Tongue
 

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Reply #47 - Jan 13th, 2004 at 8:46pm

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WinkI don't know mate. It's all gone a bit fuzzy now, actually. I saw the History channel Doco, but I may be confused with the old movie, with Clifton Webb as the Officer who came up with the scheme.  Grin

I know the bloke in the movie was a vagrant. I'm sure he'd drowned because the post mortem that the Germans would surely do, would have to reveal this. Anything out of the ordinary for an Army officer who was supposed to have been in a plane crash over water, would have blown the whole thing.  Wink

Anyway, whatever, it was a brilliant little peice of trickery!  Grin
 

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Reply #48 - Jan 14th, 2004 at 2:34am

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I saw the same doco as woody.  It was believed for many years that the body of a vagrant was used and I think that was the plan but they were suddenly "gifted" with tons of freshly drowned bodies and the plan changed.

And wasn't it all about "Husky" and not "Overlord"?

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Reply #49 - Jan 15th, 2004 at 12:36am

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I saw the same doco as woody.  It was believed for many years that the body of a vagrant was used and I think that was the plan but they were suddenly "gifted" with tons of freshly drowned bodies and the plan changed.

And wasn't it all about "Husky" and not "Overlord"?

Will


It was about the invasion of either Sicily or Greece, I'm not sure which. I know that the Gernmans were fooled into thinking it was one of those, but it was really the other. Probably Sicily and they moved all their resources to Greece. I think - without looking it up, because I'm just too lazy today!!  Grin Grin Grin Wink

Sorry Will, I see now where you got the impression I was inferring to Overlord.
I changed subjects in my earlier post. I was talking about Overlord first and then used the 'Man with no name' as an example of how it was better to let out 'misinformation' everywhere, rather than rely on 'utter secrecy'.  Grin Wink
 

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