I had an utterly naff 1.7 Celeron, it ran most things well except CFS3  

I'd recomend a Celeron to somebody about as much as I'd recomend piles......  

However, if your looking to build a machine and plan to upgrade in the relative future, then buy the best Springdale board you can afford (Which support the 400fsb Celeron's) then once the price drops as it surely will, replace the Celeron with an 800fsb p4 - and find out instantly why the p4's cost so very much more!

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Was that it? Was that the rant? I expected more than that...
Dan G
Wales, Uk

Buy an AMD 2500+ Barton and set the FSB at 200. You effectively have a AMD 3200 for half the price

Has anyone out there actually run FS2004 on an AMD64?

My understanding is that the AMD64 would be running in its 32-bit compatibility mode (since Win and FS2004 are 32-bit apps), so you wouldn't see any increase in performance over a 32-bit Athlon processor running at the same clock speed. (If you see what I mean! )
In fact, I saw some benchmarks carried out on the new 64-bit chip that suggest it might even be *slower* when running 32-bit applications.

If that's the case, then anyone wishing to use their machine purely for fs2004 might do better to go for a cheaper (32-bit) Athlon or Pentium running at the same clock speed, and spend the extra cash on RAM or a better video card.

I'm currently weighing up the 64-bit/32-bit question for a new PC, so any ideas/opinions/abuse would be gratefully received...

Hi Daveyboy, Im afraid I don't I don't know much about computers (so don't listen!) but I have a new machine on the way (see below).

I am slightly regretting my decision not to go for the AMD64 now. I think the Pentium 4 3.2Ghz is the best short term solution (benchmarks etc prove this) but the world will be moving on to 64bit proccessors. Who can tell whether the game developement people with discard the 32bit stuff sooner or later. Hopefully it will be later from my point of view!*

*I knew I shouldn't have bought this months computer shopper (Febuary in January - the world is mad!) but I found the world of computers quite interesting! The sooner this new one arrives I can stop worrying!

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I think your fears are somewhat unjustified birdman,

Cast your mind back, remember the many people who rushed out to buy the then new Sct423 Pentium 4's? within months of the new platform's launch Intel went and re-designed the chip, onto a Sct 478 platform and overnight all the "new" p4's were utterly obsolete!

My advice with any new Processor range is to wait and see what revisions (i.e. bug/glitch fixes) they iron out first, wait for the new chip to settle on something representing a standard spec, then perhaps take the plunge.
Not forgetting, in this time of waiting and seeing, the price will keep falling not to mention the sound of Intel's 64Bit p5 in the distance,will be getting very loud by then .

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