Simviation Forum - 7E7 OR A380

Dec 12^th, 2003 at 10:35pm

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???jst wondering which one of these aircraft
will get alot of busniess in the near future ???i
guess it been alot of question about the A380
will take more busniess then 7E7 Shocked

but i got to
admit they both are alsome Roll Eyes

the A380 holds
500 to 600 hundread passenger that a big step Grin

i want to get a poll started on this
more likely i am thnking A380 tops them all
sorry boeing Cry

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Reply #1 - Dec 13^th, 2003 at 4:49am

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Different market needs different aircraft...

A380 is the same segment as the 747-400X (take a 747-400, add a few meters at the front and the back and stretch the top deck until it ends at the reart part of the wingroot)

7E7 is A330 segment

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Reply #2 - Dec 13^th, 2003 at 5:13am

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He's right,

A380 is in NO WAY in competition with the A380, it may seem that way since they are both being introduced at the same time Wink

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Reply #3 - Dec 13^th, 2003 at 8:59am

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mike i think you meant 7E7:) lol
and no they arnt being introduced at the same time, airbus plans the A380 in about 2-3 years, the 7E7 is at least 6-7 years away.
you really cant compair the two, proof of whos got the upperhand here, is, Airbus are desperatly looking for ways to get the 7E7's engines on their A330's but have realised it wont happen and are now looking into a replacement, Airbus are demanding the EU punish boeing over the fact it gets government funding which is Pot calling Kettle black, even funnier as airbus basically give away their planes to. And finally Boeing havent thought of a way to replace the 747 with an A380 competitor, so they arnt worried:)

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Reply #4 - Dec 13^th, 2003 at 10:37pm

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Why isn't Boeing looking for a A380 competitor? Is it because they are more concentrated on 7E7 at the moment?
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Reply #5 - Dec 14^th, 2003 at 5:45am

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various reasons. no need for it, the 747 will do fine.

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Reply #6 - Dec 14^th, 2003 at 10:25am

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http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/2001814650_boeing14.htm...

There's an article about the 7E7, doesn't sound good.

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Reply #7 - Dec 14^th, 2003 at 11:20am

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citation as a pilot yourself, i am guessing you know all to well, its almost impossible to predict the future in the aviation world. a week is long term planning. or something along those lines.
again though i think the 7E7 is going to be huge, the 767 needs to be replaced and the 757 aswell, there is nothing airbus offers that could be a viable option, the 7E7 will be it.
Small planes are always good to bank on, the A380 is going to be useless if there is another downturn in business, where as a half full 7E7 would be little to no problem.

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Reply #8 - Dec 16^th, 2003 at 11:12pm

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Well at least alot of Boeing employees here in the Seattle area are in better spirits today, they announced it today that it's official.
The 7E7 will be built at Everett. I know it's going to be good for them as they've been holding their breath on this one for awhile.

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Reply #9 - Dec 17^th, 2003 at 11:48pm

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Which interior do you guys prefer? A380's or 7E&? So far I would vote for Boeing Cheesy

based on picture I have seen.

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Reply #10 - Dec 18^th, 2003 at 4:17am

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JVC i dont know if you have seen the new interior photos of the 7E7, if not goto boeings site they are there, it looks nothing like the original photo, and it looks amazing, spacious, the colors and layout look really nice, and the windows are huge

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Reply #11 - Dec 18^th, 2003 at 2:06pm

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Take a look at this, First class on the Airbus A830 House plane looks pretty spacious couldnt find any on the 7E7 though

http://aviaforce.free.fr/avions/images/ligne/airbus/a380/a380_4.jpg

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Reply #12 - Dec 18^th, 2003 at 2:29pm

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http://www.boeing.com/news/releases/2003/q4/nr_031117g.html
7E7 new interior plans

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Reply #13 - Dec 20^th, 2003 at 9:06pm

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Nice photos guys!! I would go for 7E7 interior Grin

. It's just amazing!! Sorry for all those who prefer Airbus interior. Althought an A380 interior is also really well designed Wink

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Reply #14 - Dec 22^nd, 2003 at 1:42pm

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I am actually working for Bombardier Aerospace completion center of Montreal. I have seen a couple design and parts from Boeing and I prefer Airbus. I think that they produce more quality than Boeing. And think that even if the 7E7 and A380 were introduce at the same time, Airbus is much further than Boeing. They have completed more than the half of the A380.

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Reply #15 - Dec 22^nd, 2003 at 1:57pm

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hey fred, Of course airbus are ahead, Being have only just begun offering the plane for pre-orders, not even begun to build the 7E7, the A380 has been in planning for a long time now. Personally i find airbus interiors very plain and boring, Boeing really exceeded the levels with the 777 the way its designed is amazing to give the idea of as much space as possible, and again the A380 is all about packing people in like sardines.

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