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Dec 12^th, 2003 at 10:53am

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A minor grumble from a humble Brit (English actually and we are Rugby world champs).

If Fs2004 is celebrating a century of flight how come no Concorde???? Surely a milestone in world history not just aviation.

Perhaps it is seen differently across the pond Tongue

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Reply #1 - Dec 12^th, 2003 at 10:59am

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I was also wondering why Microsoft left out Concorde. And it is such a great aircraft too!! You can download it thought if you want. There a very nice one avalable for download

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Reply #2 - Dec 12^th, 2003 at 2:38pm

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Try the Project Mach 2 Concorde model, its AWESOME!
Its available at a number of sites on the web, and the updates for more realistic flight dynamics and cockpit are available here under the FS2k2 downloads Wink

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Reply #3 - Dec 12^th, 2003 at 2:47pm

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Just to add the URL for the above:

http://www.fsfrance.com/Projets/Mach2/Telecharger.htm

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Reply #4 - Dec 12^th, 2003 at 3:01pm

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A minor grumble from a humble Brit (English actually and we are Rugby world champs).

We'll see who the real world champions are in the 6 nations. Wink

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Reply #5 - Dec 12^th, 2003 at 3:02pm

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Thanks Pete, I couldn't remember that. And don't forget that telecharger is French for download Wink

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Reply #6 - Dec 12^th, 2003 at 3:07pm

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Some screenies I took while flying her from Nairobi to EHAM: have a look if your interested.

Bear in mind I was missing the VC textures while these were taken. Mix up Embarrassed

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Reply #7 - Dec 13^th, 2003 at 6:23am

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We'll see who the real world champions are in the 6 nations. Wink

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Sorry to go off on one guys but 8)

And where did Wales come in the last 6 nations? You should not base a challenge on one fair performance. Grin

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Reply #8 - Dec 13^th, 2003 at 6:25am

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Thanx for the pointers guys

Have downloaded the mach2 project, anyone used this in Fs2004?

Cheers

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Reply #9 - Dec 13^th, 2003 at 9:23am

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And where did Wales come in the last 6 nations? You should not base a challenge on one fair performance. Grin

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2 I'll have you know. The All Blacks were rattled and Engand were "technically" Beaten by wales. Yawn oh well we'll see come march Wink

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Reply #10 - Dec 13^th, 2003 at 9:27am

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concorde was not included for a few reasons, microsoft explained those reasons.
they were along these lines:
Concorde has a very complex flight model, and to the average flyer of flight sim, far to complex to make it a worth while addition.
The designers have to take rides on all the aircraft or at very least get all the info they can, they couldnt get all the information required for concorde, so couldnt make it a complete model.
there were a few other reasons and if you search the in game news menu they are in there, i believe it was in a subject titled, how We select flight sim aircraft.

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Reply #11 - Dec 13^th, 2003 at 12:06pm

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Concorde has a very complex flight model, and to the average flyer of flight sim, far to complex to make it a worth while addition.

If this was the argument then why is the wright flyer in FS then? They could have at least had Concorde AI....

But I understand the other reasons that you explained last time this arguement came up Roll Eyes

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Reply #12 - Dec 13^th, 2003 at 12:17pm

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microsoft explained those reasons.
they were along these lines:
Concorde has a very complex flight model, and to the average flyer of flight sim, far to complex to make it a worth while addition.
The designers have to take rides on all the aircraft or at very least get all the info they can, they couldnt get all the information required for concorde, so couldnt make it a complete model.

I think this is a very poor excuse. Concorde was already modelled for FS2000 & therefore I suggest it wouldn't take a lot to update it for FS9. At the time this statement was made, Concorde was in regular service so there would be no problem in getting any information they wished for. As for taking rides in the actual aircraft, if you check out the list of new types included with FS9 you will see this claim is ridiculous. Roll Eyes

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Reply #13 - Dec 13^th, 2003 at 1:55pm

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Same poor excuses from microsoft I think Roll Eyes

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Has anybody got the mach2 concorde infs2004??

I downloaded it and it aint appearing any other downloads that can be recommended?

And Matt how is a team technically beaten ???
you guys should give praise when its deserved. Wales did well considering there recent problems

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Reply #14 - Dec 13^th, 2003 at 2:46pm

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microsoft admited their concorde model from 2000, wasnt at all that good, and to keep it realistic would have required a major overhaul of its entire config.
i will try and find the link so you can all read it for yourself

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Reply #15 - Mar 12^th, 2004 at 4:38am

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I think this is a very poor excuse. Concorde was already modelled for FS2000 & therefore I suggest it wouldn't take a lot to update it for FS9. At the time this statement was made, Concorde was in regular service so there would be no problem in getting any information they wished for. As for taking rides in the actual aircraft, if you check out the list of new types included with FS9 you will see this claim is ridiculous. Roll Eyes

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Ryan NYP "Spirit of St. Louis"
Ford 4-AT-E Tri-Motor
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De Havilland DH-88 "Comet"

Some of these planes have been rebuilt and are in perfect flying condition. While they may be hard to find there would be no shortage of information on the particular planes.

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Reply #16 - Mar 12^th, 2004 at 7:41am

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A minor grumble from a humble Brit (English actually and we are Rugby world champs).

What in the hell is rugby anyway? Isn't it some kind of glorified soccer?

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Reply #17 - Mar 12^th, 2004 at 1:47pm

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please let me concorde 674A

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Reply #18 - Mar 12^th, 2004 at 7:36pm

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What in the hell is rugby anyway? Isn't it some kind of glorified soccer?

LOL, its what you Americans call football.
The thing I cant work out though, is why its called football, considering that the feet make little contact with the 'ball'.
Football everywhere else in the world means the game where you use your feet to move the ball Tongue

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Anyway, yeah I'm dissapointed that there is no Concorde, or is there too much sourness over the fact that you didnt suceed to build an SST Wink

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