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What's with you Brits and music? (Read 2271 times)

Reply #30 - Dec 7^th, 2003 at 5:24am

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Reply #31 - Dec 7^th, 2003 at 8:36am

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I admit my ignorance in not knowing Germany's current national anthem but "Deutschland, Uber Alles", based on Haydn, also moved me. There is a Protestant hymn based on the same tune.

erm....this is the first part of the "song of the germans" and it's forbidden since the end of WW2,along with the second part.
however ,the third part became the official national anthem in 1991,after the reunion.

i've got the lyrics of the current hymn here,but i don't have an idea how to translate them...

"Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit
Für das deutsche Vaterland!
Danach lasst uns alle streben,
Brüderlich mit Herz und Hand!
Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit
Sind des Glückes Unterpfand:
Blüh im Glanze dieses Glückes,
Blühe, deutsches Vaterland!"

i'll try it nevertheless:

"Unity and law and freedom
For the german father land!
Let us strive for this,
Brotherly with heart and hand!
Unity and law and freedom,
Are luck's pledge(??):
Bloom in the glime of this luck,
Bloom ,german fatherland!"

well,at least i tried,eh? Wink

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Reply #32 - Dec 7^th, 2003 at 2:01pm

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I understand all the forbidden Nazi stuff but surely they can play Haydn, Wagner, Beethoven, etc. If they banned "Nazi music" that would kind of strip away 500 years of musical heritage. If they banned Italian "Axis music" that would do away with about 90% of western musical heritage. I'd go nuts if all I could listen to were Britten and Tchaikowski.

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Reply #33 - Dec 7^th, 2003 at 4:00pm

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Well alot of Britain wouldn't like to be considered europe you know. I'm sure Germany wouldn't like to be confused with a country close like France.

The only country in Britain I have seen really embrace Euro policy is Ireland and thats mainly Southern Island (not part of Britain.)

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Reply #34 - Dec 8^th, 2003 at 10:51am

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Music has always played an intrinsic part in British films; look at 'Scott of the Antarctic' and the way that Vaughan Williams depicted this environment in the music. 'Curse of the werewolf' from Hammer in the 1950s was among the first films to use atonal effects for weirdness, long before it happened again with 'Alien'. Even John Williams copied the English musical style at the end of Star Wars.

Even noticed that the 'baddies' in Hollywood films have always had English accents? From Colin Clive in 'Frankenstein' through Peter Lorre, George Sanders and Peter Cushing in Star Wars. Must be the accent and the ability to raise one eyebrow.

These days, the only really saleable British film that even gets recognised transatlantically is the ubiquitous upbeat-romantic-comedy type, and even then we (occasionally) have to rely on a Hollywood star wearing a British accent - very well indeed, in Renee Zellweger's case - to sell it over there. Which will be Ewan MacGregor's most recognised roles - Obi-Wan Kenobi (where he's mostly slept through the part so far in episodes 1 and 2) or the UK-based films he's starred in this year?

Having said that, I enjoy a good film, with chocolate covered raisins and a cup of coffee. (And my mobile phone turned off, of course.)