I'm sorry but even after reading my own posting I realize that the way I put it is rather one sided.
I do have a hard time of explaining myself and what I mean so others can understand me.
One thing is my definition of "real music" is:
Music that the artist has created themselves, granted there are great songwriters that can't play a lick, or sing, their specialty is writting. And they depend on the musician to record and play it for the world too hear and I'm all for that.
My beef is the "fake", the corperate run "bands" or "fads" the stuff that won't last ,the stuff that I don't understand how anyone can call it music.
Music has went from a form of expression and feeling to "this song is great and meaningfull and expresses the way I feel, but the kids won't like it" or "the radio won't play it".
Music isn't about music anymore!
I know that music has been industry run forever, and each generation has had thier own form or style, some that have hung in there and some that have blowen off the face of the earth. But music now is aimed at the 12- 14 year old people.
And for bands that are trying to get a start, it is harder than ever to even record, you have the suits telling you how you should record, what songs you should record etc.
this advice coming from one who probably never played a instrument or wrote a song ever.
Yes it is all about money plain and simple. And because of that the world is missing out on great music because someone in a office said that the radio won't play it , or the "kids" won't buy it etc. Trash it!
I remember when people joked about Milli Vinnili and how they were bashed for being fake, well I hate to tell you they are alive and well in spirit, turn on MTV or the radio they they are, they just look different.
I do agree to all forms of music though my post might not show it, I can basically listen to anything and I have my likes and dislikes. And by no means do I want to sound like I'm trying to tell people mine are any more important than thiers. I may be misunderstood but these are my opinions and should mean nothing to others.
Unfortanatly I'm here in East Tenneesee and there is no such thing as a good radio station or varity, you have country,classic rock, hip-hop, gospel. All play the same songs over and over again.
So maybe the new topic should be (this idea came to me from a local rock station ad  that claims to have the largest classic rock collection in the world!)
If a band can record a couple hundred songs, why do you only play one of them?
Thank god for cd's and MP3's!!
Final thought:
Music should be experianced not force fed, if you like it fine , if I don't who cares!!
To each his own and that is the way it should be!
GOD BLESS AMERICA!

I have a pretty wide taste in music & never objected to anything providing it's original & well performed. I don't mind new versions of old songs & like some myself - providing they're not exact cover versions of the original with the same arrangement. I never saw the point of that as to my mind the original is invariably better in every way.

What I do object to is these people ripping off other musician's stuff wthout crediting the original authors or giving them some form of payment. It seems that this is perfectly legal. Well, that might be so but I find it immoral to say the least. I realise that morality means little these days.

B1a2rrios your right it is enjoying music and like I said that my opinion is mine and mine alone that is what make this country great use your freedom of speech while you still have it!!
And what Hagar said about the copying (stealing) do any of you remember Vanilla Ice.
He ripped of the fine work of Queen/Bowie, that is where I remember this stealing trend starting but I'm know it has happened before then, but this one was when it really made people relize  it was happening.
I'm not at all against one artist using another artist song, as long as it is done with the permission of the person responsiable for the effort.
I to have heard some covers that were performed better than the original.
And I hate to say it but do you know that some Iron Maiden songs sound really cool performed by the Boston pops orchrestra?
I guess there is a right way and a wrong way to go about using someone else's work to your benifit.
B1a2rrios:
Yes new music is always welcome, that is why I love this site it allows you to voice your opinion, ask for help and just have fun without prejuduce!
And the occasional slap in the face and wake up and smell the coffee is wecome too.
God I love this place!!

Fretnstuff. From what I've said you know I feel as strongly on this issue as you.

On the subject of censorship & freedom of speech I would remind you that:

1. This is a private forum with its own simple rules set by the webmaster of SimV. Basically, the members agree to abide by those rules. The forum moderators are allowed a restricted form of censorship & can delete anything they judge as unsuitable or likely to cause offence. This power is fortunately rarely used due to the good sense of the moderators & general membership.

2. This is an international forum with members from all over the world. One country's laws do not apply here & are no more or less important than the laws of another.

OK. Let the discussion continue.

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LOL Craig. You have to watch everything you say around here or some bright spark is just waiting for the opportunity to pounce. I'm quite certain you got the gist of where I'm coming from.

PS. Just be careful if you venture anywhere near York on a Sunday. I'm really rather fond of you & wouldn't wish you to come to any permanent harm.

Hagar,
I understand the rules of this site and don't consider anything the moderators might deem unappropriate censorship.
The reason for this is because I was given the rules ahead of time and understand that if I were to say or do anything unappropriate that I might be banned.
The Censorship I refer to is the kind that the government or censorship groups try to force on you, where you don't have the choice.
I was given the rules for this site and I respect them that is why I'm here, if the rules offended me I would not be. I understand the purpose of this site is "family friendly" and do agree somethings should not be here.
And because of that I send thanks too the moderators, they have a hard job and a weight on their shoulders having to decide what or what not should be posted here.
A job I would not want.

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I know what are you talking about fretnstuff. It's not cool living in a place like that.

Would that make it legal to shoot a scottish frog with a bow
croaking after midnight on Sunday in Mississippi?