Search the archive:
Simviation Main Site
|
Site Search
|
Upload Images
Simviation Forum
›
General
›
General Discussion
› faster than light
(Moderators: Mitch., Fly2e, ozzy72, beaky, Clipper, JBaymore, Bob70, BigTruck)
‹
Previous Topic
|
Next Topic
›
Pages:
1
2
3
faster than light (Read 846 times)
Reply #15 -
Dec 4
th
, 2003 at 6:25am
Hagar
Offline
Colonel
My Spitfire Girl
Costa Geriatrica
Posts: 33159
Craig. I suggest that travelling at supersonic speed is a completely different proposition to the speed of light.
I'm told that some stars I can clearly see in the night sky with my rapidly failing eyesight actually disappeared millions of Earth years ago.
Founder & Sole Member - Grumpy's Over the Hill Club for Veteran Virtual Aviators
Member of the
Fox Four Group
Need help? Try
Grumpy's Lair
My photo gallery
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #16 -
Dec 4
th
, 2003 at 6:28am
Craig.
Offline
Colonel
Birmingham
Gender:
Posts: 18590
LOL:)
in the end its all theory and whats if's. lets face it, it is very unlikely in any of our lifetimes that it will happen.
although according to star trek history in 2063 after the third world war zephram cochrane will make the first faster than light trip:) so some mays till be alive for that
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #17 -
Dec 4
th
, 2003 at 6:31am
Craig.
Offline
Colonel
Birmingham
Gender:
Posts: 18590
lol yes some stars you see are now dead:)
Mr Hagar, you and Mr Fozzer are those two old guys in line at the supermarket who complain about everything moving on so fast with the world and how the young hooligans of today are taking over, and that all this technology is no good for the planet, as you managed to survive without even a TV
Cheers mate:)
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #18 -
Dec 4
th
, 2003 at 6:42am
Hagar
Offline
Colonel
My Spitfire Girl
Costa Geriatrica
Posts: 33159
Quote:
lol yes some stars you see are now dead:)
Mr Hagar, you and Mr Fozzer are those two old guys in line at the supermarket who complain about everything moving on so fast with the world and how the young hooligans of today are taking over, and that all this technology is no good for the planet, as you managed to survive without even a TV
Cheers mate:)
Don't mock the afflicted young Craig me lad. You will be just like me & old Foz one day. I guarantee it. That's if you survive of course.
Looking at all the doddering old fogeys like us it might be difficult for you to believe that we were once young sprogs, very much like you. All bright-eyed & bushy-tailed, we had open minds & were prepared to go along with all this nonsense the "experts" & scientists are so fond of. We've all done things you will possibly only ever experience in your wildest dreams.
I can't speak for Foz, but I become more cynical with each day that passes.
Founder & Sole Member - Grumpy's Over the Hill Club for Veteran Virtual Aviators
Member of the
Fox Four Group
Need help? Try
Grumpy's Lair
My photo gallery
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #19 -
Dec 4
th
, 2003 at 6:50am
Craig.
Offline
Colonel
Birmingham
Gender:
Posts: 18590
actually i cant mock:) as i am rather jealous, you have gotten to experiance as you said things i never could. Man landing on the moon for the first time. England actually winning a football world cup. The greatest era in aviation, the explosion of television. Everything we have these days is nothing more than an expansion of what was created back when you were younger and even before. To experiance that would be great.
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #20 -
Dec 4
th
, 2003 at 7:00am
Hagar
Offline
Colonel
My Spitfire Girl
Costa Geriatrica
Posts: 33159
No need to be jealous. There's still plenty of exciting things going on. I have no wish to stop you dreaming, I still have my own. Plenty I haven't seen or done yet.
Like most men worth their salt I'm just a 16 year-old lad who never grew up. Unforunately I'm now a tad restricted by my 60 year-old body. Things take a little longer than they used to, that's all.
PS. Anyone see where I left my glasses? ??? 8)
Founder & Sole Member - Grumpy's Over the Hill Club for Veteran Virtual Aviators
Member of the
Fox Four Group
Need help? Try
Grumpy's Lair
My photo gallery
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #21 -
Dec 4
th
, 2003 at 9:12am
Delta_
Offline
Colonel
Woah!
London, UK
Gender:
Posts: 2032
Quote:
I don't see what you're saying here, mate. Data travels at the speed that the medium by which it is transferred allows. Be it a hollow tube to yell into
or a fibre optic cable
Laser pulses were found to be leaving a box that they were fired at before they were detected entering it.
Yes that does sound confusing but NewScientist magazine readers will have probably read the article that explains it all.
Also we won the rugby world cup or have you forgotten. Also it is likely we will man mission to Mars in our lifetime.
My system:
Intel Q6600@3.6GHz, Corsair XMS2 4GB DDR2-6400 (4-4-4-12-1T) , Sapphire 7850 OC 2BG 920/5000, X-Fi Fatality, Corsair AX 750, 7 Pro x64
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #22 -
Dec 4
th
, 2003 at 1:53pm
Professor Brensec
Offline
Colonel
Can't you give me a couple
more inches, Adam?
SYDNEY - AUSTRALIA
Gender:
Posts: 2955
Hyvry said
Quote:
Laser pulses were found to be leaving a box that they were fired at before they were detected entering it.
Yes that does sound confusing but NewScientist magazine readers will have probably read the article that explains it all.
Maybe my problem with 'cottoning' onto your statement is my understanding of "data". ???
Data to me is: information, facts, figures, whether they be numbers, letters, or any kind of symbol or pulse etc.
They all need to be transferred by a medium. How is Data itself, a travelling object or particle? To me it is the information contained within the transfer medium!
All data has to be 'converted' to a medium of some sort before it can be moved at all. These mediums have been electrical pulse (old telephone or Morse set), Radio waves, TV signals, Microwaves and even a scratch of lead on a peice of paper.
How does data move at any speed, without a medium by which to travel? ???
That's the purpose of my query. I hope it makes sence.
&&
&&
http://www.ra.online-plus.biz&&&&&&I
cried because I had no shoes - until I saw a man who had no feet.&&&&Dell Dimension 8100 - Intel P4 1.7 Gb - 512 RD Ram - nVidia GeForce 128 mb FX5200.
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #23 -
Dec 4
th
, 2003 at 1:58pm
Professor Brensec
Offline
Colonel
Can't you give me a couple
more inches, Adam?
SYDNEY - AUSTRALIA
Gender:
Posts: 2955
Quote:
to those who keep saying its impossible, no it isnt. We just havent gotten there yet. They said breaking the sound barrier was impossible but it happend when we had the technology and understanding, they said we couldnt go into space or to the moon, but we did when we had the technology and understanding. Right now we dont have the technology one day we will.
now loomex, i am not really on about if you were to shine a light while traveling said speed, i am on about if you were to plot a direct course back to the sun out into space at the speed of light, i know it wouldnt be possible without hitting something but theoreticlly speaking. your only light source is the sun the light which is coming from it would be traveling slower than you so to see any light you would as someone suggested, have to look back. and who suggested hitting air would be dangerous? in space there is no air, remember if your ever to be able to travel these speeds it wont be on a planet.
As you know Craig, I'm an avid ST fan (in fact all Sci -Fi), but I fear there is a huge difference between the examples you've given (sound, the moon etc) and travel at C.
Although, apparently there are Scientists, more cluey than all of us that are for and against the possibility. So.....................I'll say, I just can't see the logic or possibility of it, but then who am I??
P.S. Space does have air and other small particles that could interfere with extreme velocity travel. It's not a complete vacuum, as some think.
&&
&&
http://www.ra.online-plus.biz&&&&&&I
cried because I had no shoes - until I saw a man who had no feet.&&&&Dell Dimension 8100 - Intel P4 1.7 Gb - 512 RD Ram - nVidia GeForce 128 mb FX5200.
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #24 -
Dec 4
th
, 2003 at 3:59pm
Delta_
Offline
Colonel
Woah!
London, UK
Gender:
Posts: 2032
Quote:
Hyvry said
Maybe my problem with 'cottoning' onto your statement is my understanding of "data". ???
Data to me is: information, facts, figures, whether they be numbers, letters, or any kind of symbol or pulse etc.
They all need to be transferred by a medium. How is Data itself, a travelling object or particle? To me it is the information contained within the transfer medium!
All data has to be 'converted' to a medium of some sort before it can be moved at all. These mediums have been electrical pulse (old telephone or Morse set), Radio waves, TV signals, Microwaves and even a scratch of lead on a peice of paper.
How does data move at any speed, without a medium by which to travel? ???
That's the purpose of my query. I hope it makes sence.
The data is simple, pulse for on, no pulse for off. It does not mean anything much.
Waves don't work at all in a vacuum (ie space) however particles work very well. Some waves do work in vacuums but i can not remember off the top of my head which do.
Not all data needs a medium to travel in. Photons from other galaxies travel to earth through a vacuum and they still get here. All we need are sensors, eyes, large dishes (of the space observation variety, not the eating off variety:P) and some computers and people to interpret it.
My system:
Intel Q6600@3.6GHz, Corsair XMS2 4GB DDR2-6400 (4-4-4-12-1T) , Sapphire 7850 OC 2BG 920/5000, X-Fi Fatality, Corsair AX 750, 7 Pro x64
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #25 -
Dec 4
th
, 2003 at 5:59pm
Crumbso
Offline
Colonel
The Sea Vixen - You aint'
never seen such a fox!!!
West Sussex, England
Gender:
Posts: 1794
Its all about relativity. In theory it is not possible to go past the speed of light relative to another object because time would stop.
If you want to know more I would read Einstien its very interesting.
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #26 -
Dec 4
th
, 2003 at 6:02pm
Woodlouse2002
Offline
Colonel
I like jam.
Cornwall, England
Gender:
Posts: 12574
So, the speed of light and time travel go hand in hand.... Interesting...
Woodlouse2002 PITA and BAR!!!!!!!!&&&&Our Sovereign Lord the King chargeth and commandeth all persons, being assembled, immediately to disperse themselves, and peaceably to depart to their habitations, or to their lawful business, upon the pains contained in the Act made in the first year of King George the First for preventing tumults and riotous assemblies. God Save the King.&&&&Viva la revolution!
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #27 -
Dec 4
th
, 2003 at 6:37pm
Fozzer
Offline
Colonel
An elderly FS 2004 addict!
Hereford. England. EGBS.
Posts: 24861
Quote:
....I can't speak for Foz, but I become more cynical with each day that passes.
Quite right Doug...
The next thing is, they will be thinking that they can land men the Moon...
...!
..Or even travell at the speed of light down a wormhole...
...
...!
Whatever next will they think of...
...!
Up to no good I've no doubt...
...!
It's just as well that you and I keep our feet firmly planted on terra firma and advise them against getting involved in such dangerous activities....
...!
Paul.
P.S. I'm sure the woman in front of me has 11 items in her shopping basket, I've counted them.
So much for a quick service, 10 item or less, queue...
...!
Dell Dimension 5000 BTX Tower. Win7 Home Edition, 32 Bit. Intel Pentium 4, dual 2.8 GHz. 2.5GB RAM, nVidia GF 9500GT 1GB. SATA 500GB + 80GB. Philips 17" LCD Monitor. Micronet ADSL Modem only. Saitek Cyborg Evo Force. FS 2004 + FSX. Briggs and Stratton Petrol Lawn Mower...Motor Bikes. Gas Cooker... and lots of musical instruments!.... ...!
Yamaha MO6,MM6,DX7,DX11,DX21,DX100,MK100,EMT10,PSR400,PSS780,Roland GW-8L v2,TR505,Casio MT-205,Korg CX3v2 dual manual,+ Leslie 760,M-Audio Prokeys88,KeyRig,Cubase,Keyfax4,Guitars,Orchestral,Baroque,Renaissance,Medieval Instruments.
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #28 -
Dec 4
th
, 2003 at 7:05pm
Rivers
Offline
Colonel
As Real As It Gets
São Paulo Brazil
Gender:
Posts: 513
If Einstein’s theory is correct, light travels in constant speed no matter what happens. So if you go at 186,000 miles/second and you turn on the headlights that shoot a beam of light at 186,000 miles/second, only god knows what you will be able to see because the light is traveling at 186,000 mps the same speed as you are. And it is very confusing because if I’m not wrong the same theory says that if you are traveling at the speed of light and someone flashes a laser behind you, it will pass by you at 186,000 miles/second. ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
??? ???
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #29 -
Dec 5
th
, 2003 at 12:20am
Professor Brensec
Offline
Colonel
Can't you give me a couple
more inches, Adam?
SYDNEY - AUSTRALIA
Gender:
Posts: 2955
Quote:
The data is simple, pulse for on, no pulse for off. It does not mean anything much.
Waves don't work at all in a vacuum (ie space) however particles work very well. Some waves do work in vacuums but i can not remember off the top of my head which do.
Not all data needs a medium to travel in. Photons from other galaxies travel to earth through a vacuum and they still get here. All we need are sensors, eyes, large dishes (of the space observation variety, not the eating off variety:P) and some computers and people to interpret it.
What is your definiton of 'data', if not information? My dictionary has only that one. What is this 'data' you speak of, which needs no medium to travel? ???
Photons are light particles, which of course travel at light speed. Photons (light particles) ARE the medium, by which information can travel, as is used in 'fibre-optic cable'
Radio waves and microwaves will travel in a vaccuum. They have used radio waves to communicate with Space craft since their inception.
&&
&&
http://www.ra.online-plus.biz&&&&&&I
cried because I had no shoes - until I saw a man who had no feet.&&&&Dell Dimension 8100 - Intel P4 1.7 Gb - 512 RD Ram - nVidia GeForce 128 mb FX5200.
Back to top
IP Logged
Pages:
1
2
3
‹
Previous Topic
|
Next Topic
›
« Home
‹ Board
Top of this page
Forum Jump »
Home
» 10 most recent Posts
» 10 most recent Topics
Current Flight Simulator Series
- Flight Simulator X
- FS 2004 - A Century of Flight
- Adding Aircraft Traffic (AI) & Gates
- Flight School
- Flightgear
- MS Flight
Graphic Gallery
- Simviation Screenshots Showcase
- Screenshot Contest
- Edited Screenshots
- Photos & Cameras
- Payware Screenshot Showcase
- Studio V Screenshot Workshop
- Video
- The Cage
Design Forums
- Aircraft & 3D Design
- Scenery & Panel Design
- Aircraft Repainting
- Designer Feedback
General
- General Discussion ««
- Humour
- Music, Arts & Entertainment
- Sport
Computer Hardware & Software Forum
- Hardware
- Tweaking & Overclocking
- Computer Games & Software
- HomeBuild Cockpits
Addons Most Wanted
- Aircraft Wanted
- Other Add-ons Wanted
Real World
- Real Aviation
- Specific Aircraft Types
- Autos
- History
On-line Interactive Flying
- Virtual Airlines Events & Messages
- Multiplayer
Simviation Site
- Simviation News & Info
- Suggestions for these forums
- Site Questions & Feedback
- Site Problems & Broken Links
Combat Flight Simulators
- Combat Flight Simulator 3
- Combat Flight Simulator 2
- Combat Flight Simulator
- CFS Development
- IL-2 Sturmovik
Other Websites
- Your Site
- Other Sites
Payware
- Payware
Old Flight Simulator Series
- FS 2002
- FS 2000
- Flight Simulator 98
Simviation Forum
» Powered by
YaBB 2.5 AE
!
YaBB Forum Software
© 2000-2010. All Rights Reserved.
Pages: 
