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the other wayx round for me. i don't like the "in the cockpit" feeling of CFS,because you can't pan your view via mouse. plus,IL-2 has some very useful function ,namely the "slow motion" mode , working ammunition indicators (only german a/c) and the best damage model ever.
you don't need text at the top of the screen for knowing where you've been hit,you can see it!.

Well, I don't care at all about addons for the IL-2 series.

You're right, the IL-2 series has been around for some time. However, IL-2 Forgotten Battles has only been around since March 2003. So, it's not that old.

The next release [IL-2 Battle of Britain] will only happen in 2005.

UBI may be taking too long to release their products, but at least their products are made with better quality and functionality than Microsoft's products. This is because UBI is pretty much listening to the demands of its customers [the customer is always right. ] and it uses that extra time to fix whatever bugs may exist before they release their final set.

Microsoft, however, does NOT take its time. Bill Gates is more into your wallet than he is into your demands. So for him, time is money and he doesn't care about the bugs in his products.

I like how I am able to pan around with the mouse. It helps me look around more quickly and fluidly.

I found out about a weapon that one of the Russian planes carry in the sim. A friend of mine showed me.

If you fly the IL-2 aircraft, you should install it with those weird things that look like two black tubes set at an angle.

Fly over your target and press the release button. You'll see some balls fall and in a second they'll collapse into huge fireballs.

I never thought it was possible. It is so cool, it's freaky. It's like dropping napalm over your enemy. SWEEEEEET

Can CFS3 do that? It never did. Even if you could, you'll need addons. IL-2 doesn't need addons [mostly] because the features are already there.

If their was a problem with IL-2, then all you ever need was to either restart the sim or install a simple patch with miracles.

In CFS, if their was a problem, you'll have to explore the root directory and modify some files or run a complicated application or reinstall the whole sim or reconnect if you're playing online and many more complicated things.

Not only that, IL-2 has better graphics, realistic damage effects, better sound quality, better compalibility, and better functionality. All that at a very good price of $30-$40 when released and after about half a year, it's down to $20.

IL-2 Forgotten has only been around since March 2003 and already the price is dropping like a brick. It's already $20. Compare that to M$'s CFS and MSFS.

I'm not trying to tell you to buy IL-2. I'm just telling you this so that you can make a better decision when buying a combat sim. It's a money saver.

I have never flown IL-2 and I never will.

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the other way round for me...can't identify myself with the allies.

I think Il-2 is fantastic

CFS 3 sucks big time totally arcade like.

I fly in real life and for some reason flying on of the Il-2 aircraft in full cockpit mode just feels right. Theres just so many great little details.


Look I drop the bomb whilst traveling low and fast on the water (Which looks fantastic by the way.)


And it skips and bounces along  8)


You can even set time delays on some of the bigger oes to give you time to get out of the way.


You can set up huge air battles with more customisation than CFS 3 with up to 16 people on your side that you can command and lots more onthe enemy side. (although I do not enjoy having 3 109's on my tail )


I think the ground textures are great and due to the fantastic collision detection in this game you don't die unless you actually touch something unlike a certain other game


I love the fact that you can crash land even if it is at a slightly strange angle you can crash land in a fantastic dispay of snapping controal cables, wings flying off and bending propellors all generated in real time.

Its a fantastic game for the serious simmer.

yeah,this game has this certain something that misses in CFS3.
and i just discovered how fuc**** awesome the Bf 109K is. three shots from the cannon and even the IL-2 goes down in pieces. 

p.s: hurricane in british markings? did i miss something? is there a BoB mod or what? 

Holy CR@b!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I never noticed it until PeteTLUK posted those pics.

If you look closely, the splashes even cast SHADOWS.