Simviation Forum - arg...i need help with my framerates

Nov 17^th, 2003 at 8:08pm

Uber_Elvis Offline
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here's my problem...i am unable to break the 15fps barrier which seems very low for my 'puter ( specs below ). when i go into the advanced display settings in cfs2, i am unable to check the enable hardware box. I have tried to change various settings in my display properties to correct this, but i can't seem to remedy it. i have tried the 3d programs like rivatuner, geforcetweak, etc but all to no avail.

any and all help would be greatly appreciated, so thanx in advance! Grin

sys specs as follows:
amd duron 1.2 ghz
geforce ti4200 128mb vid
512 megs ram
sb live! soundcard
windows xp home.

again, thanx for any help!

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Reply #1 - Nov 22^nd, 2003 at 7:26am

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Your system is fine for running CFS2, but there are MANY things you can do to tweak the game, your video card and OS system up to run it and any program/game better.

Take a look at my CFS2 Tweaking guide here. http://www.brennt.com/hoppers/cfs2tweaking.html

I suspect you will need to do a few things to XP also. MY new machine has XP and I sure miss my ME. But it is running well now after a little work.

Good luck pilot.

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Reply #2 - Nov 22^nd, 2003 at 7:50am

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Hi Elvis...
(Nice to know you are still around...keep twanging your gee-tar)..... Grin

...!
LOL...!
See my specs below... Wink

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My previous set-up with an AMD Duron 850 MMX processor was similar, (identical?), to yours and really ran with no problems at all.
My frame rates were between 10 and 25 FPS with full settings, which is quite acceptable...!
I have recently installed an AMD Athlon XP 2.6 MMX processor which has only really smoothed put my side views from the cockpit, and also makes banking views a bit smoother with the same settings... Wink

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Cheers... Grin

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Paul.
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Reply #3 - Nov 22^nd, 2003 at 8:56am

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Foz old bean. When was the last time you fired up CFS2? I would be very disappointed to get less than an average 30 fps in a furball mission with everything maxed out on my low-end rig.

Elvis. CFS2 should run like a rocket on your machine. Try Fireman's tweaking guide.

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Reply #4 - Nov 23^rd, 2003 at 4:13am

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Foz old bean. When was the last time you fired up CFS2? I would be very disappointed to get less than an average 30 fps in a furball mission with everything maxed out on my low-end rig.

Elvis. CFS2 should run like a rocket on your machine. Try Fireman's tweaking guide.

Sorry Hagar... Cry

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I tuned into the wrong channel, as often happens... Cry

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My remarks were really aimed at FS 2002/2004...!

I have got CFS 2, but you know me, I just can't muster up enough aggression to load it up and play it successfully...... Wink

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I'll leave you to blast the c**p out of everything that moves with your twin Brownings, (or whatever)... 8)...!
LOL...!
I'll keep swinging the wooden prop on my Piper J3 Cub and chuffin' quietly around 'Frisco Bay... Grin

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LOL...!

Paul....ZZZZzzzzzz.....

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Reply #5 - Nov 24^th, 2003 at 10:37pm

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thanks for the info fireman, very good stuff. popped up my framerate a bit, but i still don't have the "enable hardware acceleration" box available. with the geforce tweaker and a tweak program i found on netwings i can adjust t&l and anti aliasing but i still can't get the 3d hardware settings going. i also only show 16 bit colours on my screen resolution selections. i am assuming that my low framerate is due to the fact that i can't adjust the hardware selection and the 16 bit instead of 32 or 24 bit . having lots of fun with aircraft and missions that i've found on various sites but furballs @ 5 or 6 fps are getting annoying. Sad

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Reply #6 - Nov 25^th, 2003 at 7:40am

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Ok, I too had the problem with no 3d acceleration and turned out to be a bad set of drivers for my video card.

First, make sure you have DirectX 9.0b. If not, get it from Microsoft. Then do the following:

Run dxdiag, Start/Run and type in dxdiag. Do all the checks. You just might see a problem pop up indicating there is trouble with 3D Acceleration. If so, you need to get a different set of drivers for your VID card. Maybe update them? But sometimes the newest drivers are NOT the best. Once you get to the point where you can use the 3D Acceleration Option, even if you don't turn it on in the game, you will have more settings in your VID card set up that should vastly improve your frame rates.

With your system, you should be able to play CFS2 with great frame rates no matter what furball you get into!!

Good luck and keep us posted.

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Reply #7 - Dec 2^nd, 2003 at 3:38pm

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well i caved and went the microsoft help route...no solutions yet, but good ol' vinay from ms is on the case now. if he finds me a solution i'll post it here as from my forum trolls this seems to be a pretty common problem. Undecided

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Reply #8 - Dec 3^rd, 2003 at 9:51pm

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DirectX 9, 16 bit colour settings and window mode.

AMD Athlon 64 3700+&&GeForce FX5200 256Mb&&1GB DDR400 DC&&Seagate 500Gb SATA-300 HDD&&Windows XP Professional X64 Edition&&&&That's right, I'm now using an AMD! I decided to give them another try and they kicked the pants off of my P4 3.4!

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Reply #9 - Dec 3^rd, 2003 at 9:52pm

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That post made me a resident Shocked

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Reply #10 - Dec 4^th, 2003 at 2:53am

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pfffffftt

so much for microsoft help...

reinstall drivers and directx....duh

then when that didn't work ( the 3rd time...) their response is typical of microsoft.." go look in the forums and newsgroups for an answer" ???

last correspondence i sent to them was cfs2 is ms product, win xp home is ms product, directx is ms product...hmmmm where should i go to look for tech help on this?

a big middle finger salute to all those lazy weenies at ms

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Reply #11 - Dec 6^th, 2003 at 1:57am

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i hate being a free microsoft beta tester....grr Angry

uninstalled directx 9....installed 8...everything works peachy-dandy! 8)

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Reply #12 - Dec 10^th, 2003 at 8:40pm

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i hate being a free microsoft beta tester....grr Angry

uninstalled directx 9....installed 8...everything works peachy-dandy! 8)

Hmm, if only doing that cured my CFS3 woes..... Roll Eyes

Incidentally, I'd always thought un-installing DX to an earlier version was a very bad idea.... ??? - The joy of XP I suppose (I hav'nt tried this with mine yet....)

Puzzling though, I've got DX9.0b CFS2 works without a problem.

???

Paul.

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Reply #13 - Dec 25^th, 2003 at 5:25pm

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here's my problem...i am unable to break the 15fps barrier which seems very low for my 'puter ( specs below ). when i go into the advanced display settings in cfs2, i am unable to check the enable hardware box. I have tried to change various settings in my display properties to correct this, but i can't seem to remedy it. i have tried the 3d programs like rivatuner, geforcetweak, etc but all to no avail.

any and all help would be greatly appreciated, so thanx in advance! Grin

sys specs as follows:
amd duron 1.2 ghz
geforce ti4200 128mb vid
512 megs ram
sb live! soundcard
windows xp home.

again, thanx for any help!

Hi Uber_Elvis

I had a very similar problem running a more powerful machine but with the ti4200. Go to system info and check out how much memory XP is seeing on your grahics card. As I said I had a ti4200 and it progressively lost its memory without ringing alarm bells in XP. Started off at 128 Mb, dropped to 64 mb and eventually 8. The system took along time to boot as the card degraded.
I got a Radeon 9600 Pro after that and in my system it knocks the socks off the nvidia card.

kurt190

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