Hi Jonathan,

Yeah, please don't get me wrong. It's everyone's choice as to what AV system they use but the thing is they MUST use one. If they want to go out and buy a system that's fine BUT cash is a problem for a lot of guys on the forums here especially the younger ones .

Well they needn't think that by going for a free system (esp AVG) that they will then be getting something that's second rate.

They won't.

AVG is a world-class AV organisation and they make their money when people like me (who use their free stand-alone system) recommend their network systems to corporate clients. For them their free system is a terrific way to promote themselves and their products and they should be applauded and supported for what they are doing to help overcome the menace of computer viruses by providing it.

I don't see McAfee, Norton or their like doing anything like as much without putting their hands out first.

ok, well now I have norton aintivirus 2002, it is fully updated, and now I am doing a full virus scan.... probably will take all nite, and I hope I wont have to reformat my harddrive.... it seems really slow (windows XP startup screen stays on for about 1 minute and 30 seconds, when before, it would take 15 secs....

Thanks alot john, that was the prob with the "my computer".... god only knows how it got to be the way it was....

Thanks alot everybody, and right now I am getting all my CD-RW's out now for back-up, incase I have to reformat my HD.... I hope it don't come to that....

Can't help you there - but something more about AV.

Yesterday I went to a new client with 'slow PC problems' which I suspected was down to a virus.

He had up-to-date  Norton. Did a scan - all clear.

Did a scan with up-to-date AVG and virus found.

You can stuff Norton - but if people don't want to take advice that's up to them

I am starting to format drive C in about 10 mins 

NEVER EVER GO ON-LINE WITHOUT an anti-virus software program.
I had a very nasty computer virus a few Weeks ago,I was using Norton and updated it,but it did not spot the virus I had,as the virus was programmed to by-pass Norton and Mcfaree.
The virus was slowing my computer down,and using a lot of the processor power.
I tracked it down to windows,and it was cloning itself.
If you want to do a quick check to see if you have a virus
do a disc scan,if if wont scan,then you have a virus.
Another way is to go to start,then programs,then access
ories,then go down to system monitor.
Start the log then watch the power that is used by the kennel processor.
Make sure no other programs are running.
It should go up no more than about 20-30%
Aol could not identify my virus,Norton did not know what it was,and I even put it in for a health check with PC World,(not telling them that there was a virus in my system)as they said that they would remove virus's.
But it was still there when I got my computer back.
I removed it my self the only way was to re-format the hard drive,and I have now just got my files loaded back in after three Weeks!
I do not use norton anymore,,,I use AGV,Antivir personal edition,Spybot,and a couple of others.

My warning to all about the virus I had(and I did inform these forums about it)DO NOT DOWNLOAD ANY FREE ANTIVIRUS SOFTWARE,as that is how I got my virus.
YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!!

Anyone that goe's on-line without a payware antivirus software,is running the risk of getting a virus through an E-Mail,or website,and they in turn will pass it on to other people's computers,
Also make sure that the Anti-virus software is updated regular.
I carn't understand why people would want to get on-line without an antivirus software installed.



Thanks For Reading this important information!!!


Jason Howard

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What is kazzaa?

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It's actualy a P2P  Networking system, so you can download stuff from other people. Most of it is illegal, however it does work, that's why people use it.