Simviation Forum - Fozzers new Beaver!

Reply #15 - Nov 6^th, 2003 at 4:12pm

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Bush club! Beaver!

Ooooooh young man!!!

Will Wink

Who switched the lights off? I can't see a thing....... Hold on, my eyes were closed. Oops, my bad...............&&

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Reply #16 - Nov 6^th, 2003 at 4:15pm

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Have you noticed that Mr. Pratt and Mr. Whitney have supplied me with an 8 cylinder radial engine, rather than the standard 9 cylinder engine which I specifically ordered... Angry

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I prefers Bristols personally. Can always trust a good Mercury, or a Hercules. Nice aeroplane the Beaver...

Charlie Wink

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Reply #17 - Nov 6^th, 2003 at 4:20pm

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OK. I give in gracefully. You beat me Foz. There's 100s of Beavers at Avsim. DHC2.zip doesn't exist in their file library. I have no idea which panel to look for. ??? Roll Eyes

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Reply #18 - Nov 6^th, 2003 at 4:23pm

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I prefers Bristols personally.

Don't we all!!!

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Reply #19 - Nov 6^th, 2003 at 5:10pm

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OK. I give in gracefully. You beat me Foz. There's 100s of Beavers at Avsim. DHC2.zip doesn't exist in their file library. I have no idea which panel to look for. ??? Roll Eyes

Hi Doug...
Avsim don't make it easy to post addresses in their library... Cry

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So...
Amongst the 1,000's of Beavers....
look out for these two entries...
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Category: FS2002 Original Aircraft

DeHavilland DHC-2 Beaver

Other files which are parts of this package:

Beaver Pak Panel Fix (Download #22338)
DeHavilland DHC-2 Beaver (Download #22212)

Images of this upload:

bvrpak-1.jpg
bvrpak-2.jpg
bvrpak-3.jpg
bvrpak-4.jpg
bvrpak-5.jpg
bvrpak-6.jpg
bvrpak-7.jpg

File Description:
DHC-2 Beaver package. It comes in 5 different versions: Standard wheels, tundra tires, floats, amphibious, and skis. It's done with 32 bit textures and includes a new panel and a dynamic virtual cockpit. Updated 5th November, 2145GMT with texture fixes. (RR/MJ)

Filename: bvrpak.zip
License: Freeware
Added: 5th November 2002
Downloads: 11975
Author: Steven Grant, Fred Choate, Aaron Swindle
Size: 8143kb

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Category: FS2002 Panels

DHC-2 Beaver

Images of this upload:

bvr_pnls-1.jpg
bvr_pnls-2.jpg

File Description:
Photorealistic FS2002 DHC-2 Beaver panel and gauges by Jean-Pierre Langer and Arne Bartels. Original photos by Larry Smith. This panel is in two versions, one old type with gyro-compas and one looking more recent with directionnal gyro. Both use the Garmin Map195 GPS from Coyote Avionics Design and Bendix/King Silver Crown radios from Gerd R. Nehr. Each panel has standard view and landing view as well as zooming on instruments. (CB)

Filename: bvr_pnls.zip
License: Freeware
Added: 30th June 2003
Downloads: 1274
Author: Jean-Pierre Langer and Arne Bartels
Size: 8980kb

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Cheers...
Paul.
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Reply #20 - Nov 6^th, 2003 at 5:14pm

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Check the date. This file is almost exactly 1 year old. The way you were carrying on I thought it was something new? Wink

PS. I still can't find the aircraft package despite pasting the exact file name & samples of your text in their search gizmo. Shows just how effective that is - I don't think. Roll Eyes

This demonstrates why I prefer SimV. 8)

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Reply #21 - Nov 6^th, 2003 at 5:27pm

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[quote author=Hagar link=board=screen;num=1068127743;start=15#20 date=11/06/03 at 17:14:04]Check the date. This file is almost exactly 1 year old. Iquote]

Naught, naughty, Hagar.... Wink

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"almost exactly"...

A BBC term which rattles everyone... Angry

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It's either "almost", or it's "exactly"... 8)...!
It can't be both...!
...a bit like "...at this moment in time."...meaning "now"...!
...sorry mate...but apart from that, you must agree...it's a lovely panel*... Grin

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LOL...!

Cheers Doug...!
Paul.
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...*and if you have a peek at the Forward/left, and Foreward/right bitmaps, (Num lock on, key-pad keys 7 and 9 in flight), you will see what I mean.. Wink

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Search for "DH Beaver"
Page 5 includes the planes and the special panel...

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Reply #22 - Nov 6^th, 2003 at 5:33pm

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Check the date. This file is almost exactly 1 year old. Iquote]

Naught, naughty, Hagar.... Wink

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"almost exactly"...

A BBC term which rattles everyone... Angry

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It's either "almost", or it's "exactly"... 8)...!
It can't be both...!
...a bit like "...at this moment in time."...meaning "now"...!
...sorry mate...but apart from that, you must agree...it's a lovely panel*... Grin

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LOL...!

Cheers Doug...!
Paul.
(Hereford).

...*and if you have a peek at the Forward/left, and Foreward/right bitmaps, (Num lock on, key-pad keys 7 and 9 in flight), you will see what I mean.. Wink

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LOL I only said that as by coincidence it was posted on the 5th November 2002, one year ago yesterday to be precise. You can't get much more "almost exact" than that. 8)

I would willingly check that panel out for you if I could find the bleedin' aircraft to go with it. I'm fed up to the back teeth with searching for it. ??? Roll Eyes

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Reply #23 - Nov 6^th, 2003 at 5:45pm

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I would willingly check that panel out for you if I could find the bleedin' aircraft to go with it. I'm fed up to the back teeth with searching for it. ??? Roll Eyes

...it's only 10:45 PM at the moment, and you've got all night to look for it.. Wink

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I'll supply you with cups of tea and chocolate biscuits... Tongue

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LOL...LOL...LOL...!

Paul.... Grin

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(location in previous post).... Wink

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Reply #24 - Nov 6^th, 2003 at 5:53pm

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i've had that nice beaver plus the awesome panel installed a while ago,but i deleted it from my hangar ,because i didn't need it anymore.
the beaver's not my sort of aircraft...too slow. Grin

i prefer the lockheed XP-38 instead...an awesome plane!

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Reply #25 - Nov 6^th, 2003 at 5:57pm

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...it's only 10:45 PM at the moment, and you've got all night to look for it.. Wink

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I'll supply you with cups of tea and chocolate biscuits... Tongue

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LOL...LOL...LOL...!

Paul.... Grin

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(location in previous post).... Wink

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Nah. I'll admit defeat & retire hurt. Like I said, I've tried everything I know to find that file without success. I'm not exactly a newbie at finding stuff. Life's too short despite your kind offer of tea & bikkies. Sorry Foz. Kiss

PS. Eureka.........! Found it at last. Roll Eyes

PPS. You forgot to tell me it's 8 Mb. This is likely to take all night. Put 'tkettle on & break out those bikkies. Shocked

Update - Stardate, some time in the middle of the night.
After that wild goose chase you led me on I found the same Beaver package posted right here at SimV.
http://www.simviation.com/fs2002props43.htm
This is an old FSDS1 model. Although it has a DVC it's basically an FS2000 design updated for FS2002. Nothing wrong with that - except that these are the ones that don't work properly as AI Traffic & also incompatible with FS2004.

I don't have time to finish downloading the panel tonight. If it's the FS2000-style you mentioned with the extra view windows these aren't really suitable for aircraft with a DVC. You either have one or t'other. This might explain your problem.

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Reply #26 - Nov 7^th, 2003 at 4:56am

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Mornin' Foz. This your old mate Hagar all bright-eyed & bushy tailed after a much-deserved night's rest. Cheesy

I finally have the all files & here's what I discovered. It's a fine panel & as you mentioned a tad fiddly to install.

There are 2 basic types of panel used in FS.
1. The conventional 2D panel with just the 2D forward view. These are ideal for aircraft with a DVC as all interior views except directly forward are part of the visual model, not the panel.
2. The old FS2000-style "all-round" panel with extra view windows. These are intended for & work best in aircraft without a DVC.

The problem here is that you're using a Type 2 panel in an aircraft with a DVC. Most FS2000 aircraft, including your favourite Beavers, don't have this feature. The white area is a conflict between the DVC on this particular Beaver & the extra panel views. There's nothing wrong with the panel so no amount of BMP tweaking will fix it. Slap it into another aircraft without a DVC & it should work fine..

If you wish to use this panel with this particular aircraft I suggest you delete the extra view window entries from Panel.cfg. I can do this for you if you wish.

I knew I shouldn't have got involved in this in the first place. It's my own fault & I fall for it every time. I started so I might as well finish the job. Tongue

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Reply #27 - Nov 7^th, 2003 at 10:43am

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Somehow, I knew that I would see Hagar decipher this prob and have a good workable explanation, but in shorter terms, I think I have it now......
It seems that for all his playing with this Beaver, poor old Foz is just not going to wind up totally satisfied ???
A very sad state, indeed ! Wink

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Reply #28 - Nov 7^th, 2003 at 1:04pm

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LOL Rifleman. That old rascal always delights in leading me a merry dance. One day I might learn my lesson. Oops - Hi Foz. Tongue

If my old marble had been working properly I would have figured this out much sooner. The grey area in the quarter views is caused by the missing DVC entry in Panel.cfg. For a quick fix, copy/paste the complete [Vcockpit01] entry (including all the gauges) from the original Beaver Panel.cfg into the new one. The static views will still conflict with the DVC which will give you duplicated side & quarter views. This will most likely make you go cross-eyed. Shocked

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Reply #29 - Nov 7^th, 2003 at 1:44pm

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.... Hi Foz. Tongue

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.....The static views will still conflict with the DVC which will give you duplicated side & quarter views. This will most likely make you go cross-eyed. Shocked

Hi Hagar....
Tee-Hee.... Grin

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Thanks for trying, at least I've got a better idea of the difference between the FS2000/FS2002 models now....
....(I lie... Cry

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LOL...!

The latest FS 2002 Beavers, (like the one you downloaded), with floats, I find actually float in FS 2002, whereas the FS 2000 Beavers with floats, (Chuck Domes ones with the lovely battleship grey panels), generally sink in FS 2002... Angry

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Like Ken says, I don't have a lot of luck with my Beavers... Roll Eyes

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LOL...!

Still, I will percivere, (Percy Vere), with a selection of them, and maybe get working models of all the variants using the super-dooper panel in the above pics... 8)...!

Thanks for your help Doug, sorry to have kept you up all last night trying to fix it...
..(That's the second time I have lied...).... Wink

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LOL...!

Cheers mate... Grin

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