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Geneva ATC is insane!! (Read 168 times)
Oct 30th, 2003 at 9:35pm

WebbPA   Ex Member
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I've tried a couple of flights from Gatwick to Cointrin/Geneva (LSGG) using a high altitude flight plan landing on RWY 5 at LSGG.

ATC scared the snot out of me the first couple of times because they vector me around a mountain just before final and I would swear I'm scraping the treetops.

I tried the same flight in my Beech 350, which is equipped with ground radar and, sure enough, I missed that mountain by about 100 feet.

ATC is eating too much chocolate.
 
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Reply #1 - Oct 30th, 2003 at 10:59pm

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Or maybe there short handed, because everyone is hanging out at the convention.   Roll Eyes

I think it has more to do with inaccurate terrain depiction. I gave up trying to fly the ILS at Beckley WV, when flying 98'.  I would fly a "flawless" ILS, and it would show a ground impact everytime. I'm pretty sure some of the same hijinx is occuring in 02' and 04'.
 

.....so I loaded up the plane and moved to Middle-EEEE..........OIL..that is......
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Reply #2 - Oct 30th, 2003 at 11:27pm

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I don't think the FS2002 ATC pays too much attention to real life arrival routes, hence the weird vectoring my friend.

I love to fly in the alps though, great stuff!  Grin
 
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Reply #3 - Oct 31st, 2003 at 1:12am

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It's a hoot to fly it and they have never slammed me into the ground yet.  I was just wondering how close they really got.  Now I know.  I don't know whether skimming the treetops in a 737 is scarier than in a Beech 350.
 
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Reply #4 - Oct 31st, 2003 at 3:07am

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FS2002's ATC system doesn't take ground elevation into account, therefore vectoring you into a mountain for landing doesn't seem to bother them Roll Eyes

But so far I havn't heard of any problems like this in FS2004 8)
 
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Reply #5 - Oct 31st, 2003 at 4:53am
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FS2002's ATC system doesn't take ground elevation into account

and that can be frustrating!!! When flying an IFR plan from somewhere in the Alps I now and then get initial climb clearance to say 3000ft - while vectoring me onto mountains are at least 7000ft!
Tough decision...have your flightplan cancelled by ATC (bye bye vectoring for the rest of the flight Sad) or die on a Swiss mountainside.....

Cheers
AJ
 
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