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Oct 8th, 2003 at 11:47pm

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I would like to know what most memeber will like to see in CFS4. I now what I want to see in the next edition . I would like to it to Finish the Pacific War since most Simulators are dedicated to the Eurapean Theater war. Its time for a change.Maybe the Mediterreanian Theater would also be nice. An improvement on AI and better sound effects would improve the quality of the game Series.A quality M.B. in similar format as in CFS2.A Improvement in the communication capability with your Squadron members and others and perhaps to change from one plane to another in your Squadron.I hope to hear from thew other members. Thankyou
 
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Reply #1 - Oct 9th, 2003 at 1:14am

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  Air combat has been a blast with guns, but maybe its time to enter the "jet age" and give us sim pilots some guided missiles and a targeting systems to fight with.
  Although I would like to see a "Battle for Japan" and an "Eastern Front" series wouldn't it be just more of the samething?  Lets all take the next step forward.
     
 
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Reply #2 - Oct 9th, 2003 at 6:39am

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FS2K4 with guns. Get rid of that dumb CFS3 engine and restore compatability with other M$ sims. It MUST run on a wider selection of machines also and not just super high end systems. It needs to be historicaly accurate also.
Be great to move into the Korean conflict but M$ need to include all the major players, Canada, Australia and the UK as well as the US and China/North Korea.
 

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Reply #3 - Oct 9th, 2003 at 11:15am

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Hawker said it all.  Chuck the whole thing and start over at CFS 2 or FS 2004.  A wider selection of nations besides the Big Four.  Step outside WWII and go to Korea.  I believe Korea is the best choice because of the prevelance of both props and jets.  Not only that, you could fight against both.
 

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Reply #4 - Oct 9th, 2003 at 6:19pm

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CFS4 shall be the end of the Pacific war. They ended CFS2 in 1943 for a reason. Wink
 

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Reply #5 - Oct 9th, 2003 at 9:58pm

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If it ends in the Pacific I wanna fly 47s for the USAAF.  I got sick of flyin' for Navy in CFS2.  They had the P-38, but no campaign for it.  It was so sad. Sad

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Reply #6 - Oct 10th, 2003 at 4:40pm

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This is my opinion:

Microsoft's next Combat Flight Simulator should have be compatible with FS2002 and FS2004.  It should have the ability to support gun turrents (like CFS3), so that bombers can be produced realisticly.  The new sim should also have guided weapons, and the ability to make your own.  You should have the following opinions when flying:

-Free Flight
-Quick Combat
-Single Missions
-Campaign (like CFS2)
-Multiplayer

The program should also include a mission builder and new SDKs.  With all that, anything is possible, from modern day combat to WWI.  Wink

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Reply #7 - Oct 11th, 2003 at 1:13pm

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I just thought of somethng else, the ability to produce custom bail out scenes.  Grin
 
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Reply #8 - Oct 11th, 2003 at 5:03pm

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And more ways to customize your plane.   Grin

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Reply #9 - Oct 11th, 2003 at 5:13pm

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I want another game with the CFS3 engine. I want a campaign which follows history and doesn't pay attention to how well I fly.

The CFS3 engine was a bold step towards the future. It has great potential but needs refineing. As with all new things there are teething problems to start with. And when they are ironed out, we shall have a great game.

People just don't realise that.

Also the guided weapons idea is a bad one. The multiplayer community will never accept it.  Tongue
 

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Reply #10 - Oct 11th, 2003 at 5:36pm

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Reply #11 - Oct 11th, 2003 at 5:56pm

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Not in the slightest. I think CFS3, although with its problems, is a great game with lots of potential.
 

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Reply #12 - Oct 25th, 2003 at 12:58am

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???ww1 Cheesy
 
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Reply #13 - Oct 25th, 2003 at 2:12am

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The multiplayer community will never accept it.   



The idea of Guided Weapons could be a great addition to the CFS series!

I wouldn't mind seeing a Korean era or Vietnam era CFS 4!

How about some missions in a Photo Recon Mustang with the side camera setup... It could rock!!!

Well, that's my 2 cents worth...

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Reply #14 - Oct 25th, 2003 at 8:03am

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I like the idea of photo recon missions being added to the regular bomb/dogfight scenarios.  It gets pretty boring doing the same thing after a while.  Plus with the recon missions you would get in there down and dirty with the bad guys... Cheesy
 

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Reply #15 - Oct 25th, 2003 at 8:57am

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Psst.....! I've seen a report from a reliable source on CFS4 which is already under development. If I remember it right it will continue the Pacific theatre from where CFS2 left off using an updated CFS3 engine. The format is already decided & nothing we say will have any effect. This is typical of the way M$ work. One step forward - 2 steps back. Roll Eyes

I never liked CFS3 & will be sticking with CFS2 for the forseeable future.
 

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Reply #16 - Oct 25th, 2003 at 9:29am

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Let's hope it's a WAY updated CFS3 engine.  I've been doing Flight Sims since FS 98 and I don't think I've ever seen a more disliked version of FS and that includes FS2000.  I'm sure we all remember what a mess THAT was when it first appeared. Roll Eyes
 

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Reply #17 - Oct 25th, 2003 at 10:30am

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FS2K4 with guns. Get rid of that dumb CFS3 engine and restore compatability with other M$ sims. It MUST run on a wider selection of machines also and not just super high end systems. It needs to be historicaly accurate also.
Be great to move into the Korean conflict but M$ need to include all the major players, Canada, Australia and the UK as well as the US and China/North Korea.


Hawker sums it up just about right for me peeps! Wink
 

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Reply #18 - Oct 25th, 2003 at 3:09pm

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CFS 4 like most are saying should be at least backward compat to CFS & FS2002. Use the example of another great title like Jane's Fighter Anthology - alot of planes & good loadouts using state of the art weapons, but not supported beyond Win 98 & no downloads (why, why, why!). Falcon 4.0 is expensive, techy, and poorly supported in the download dept. A possible reason for Microsoft avoiding a modern combat sim. are the new Russian planes with vectored thrust (Mig-29, Su-30, Su-32, Su-35) Shocked. The Western Bloc might have the tech and reliability edge but these new versions of older Russian fighters are able to out maneuver anything currently flying including the very expensive F-22. I think in a pure dogfight the difference might be almost embarrassing  Grin. One day an F-22 (6 missile) will have to fight a Su-35 (14 missile - some rear firing) and I think the programmers at Microsoft understand this. How far will stealth & superior avonics take you? Russia is now actively selling theses potent fighters around the world with China and India getting large orders of Su-30's (with vectored thrust). Just thought you would like to know.
 
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Reply #19 - Oct 25th, 2003 at 3:21pm

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You know, I'm sitting here thinking about this and backwards compatability, as nice as it is, may no longer be an option.  The FS engine IS quite a bit long in the tooth.  How long have we been using it now?  Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think with the exception of autogen scenery in 2004, every FS has been built upon FS 95 and are really only upgrades.  There are people here who know more about this than I do.  A new engine may not be such a bad way of doing it after all.  I think I'll change my mind from CFS3 sucks to give it a better chance.
 

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Reply #20 - Oct 25th, 2003 at 3:55pm

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So was J.R.R. Tolkien. Smiley  I guess it's just my Irish heritage taking over.
 

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Reply #22 - Oct 25th, 2003 at 4:13pm

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FS has traditionally been an ongoing development since the original Flight Simulator was first released in the 80s. FS2004 has been hailed as the most realistic yet & accepts 3rd party files created for FS2002. The conventional 3rd party utilities work with it or can be modified to do so. I see no reason to use the CFS3 engine with its lack of backward compatability & other problems. They tried it & it failed so it's time to move on. "FS2004 with guns" would be far better. IMHO

Now, if only they had included the CFS2 Ships in FS2004. Wouldn't that be something? I'm sure that would be easy enough to do but these people always seem to miss the obvious. Instead of one basic sim undergoing constant development they insist on going off on a tangent with the inevitable results. That's how I feel about it anyway. Roll Eyes
 

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Reply #23 - Oct 26th, 2003 at 8:04am

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I totally agree with Hagar on this one. Just about everyone here who has 2K4 thinks it's superb. No one minds that it's an evolution of the FS engine and not a totally new engine. M$ should bite the bullet, admit they got it wrong and give us what we want. After all, we pay their wages.
 

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Reply #24 - Oct 26th, 2003 at 12:19pm
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Psst.....! I've seen a report from a reliable source on CFS4 which is already under development. If I remember it right it will continue the Pacific theatre from where CFS2 left off using an updated CFS3 engine. The format is already decided & nothing we say will have any effect. This is typical of the way M$ work. One step forward - 2 steps back. Roll Eyes

I never liked CFS3 & will be sticking with CFS2 for the forseeable future.

Hager, what was this "Reliable Source"?
 
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Reply #25 - Oct 26th, 2003 at 9:17pm

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I don't mean to badger the point but a CFS 4 should be backward compable to CFS 2 or at least CFS 3 and should make the technological leap into modern warfare. Options for switchable ECM, and other control variable can be used to suit the expertise of the user. What makes CFS2 so great is the access to great downloads from the web. The computer demands of CFS3 are slowing interest in the game. I couldn't play it if I wanted to in my current system. Games are a technological carrot for people to go and upgrade there systems. Microsoft knows this. The new video chipset technology available will make current cards worthless in the very near future.  If CFS4 takes long enough only those who upgrade their entire systems may apply  Undecided.
If modern aircraft are incorporated (which they likely will not) it would be interesting how they handle the western aircraft stealth & avonic superiority to the Russian fighters. Vector thrusting with the hat control it was possible in the Jane's series of games. http://www.sci.fi/~fta/Su-35.htm I really would like to fly this airplane  8). It also interesting to note the French & Russians are working together in the development of their next generation of fighter aircraft. French electronics in a good Russian platform would be an interesting opponent.

 
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Roll Eyes http://www.sci.fi/~fta/Su-37-2.htm This is what I would like to try  8).
 
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Reply #27 - Nov 2nd, 2003 at 10:36pm

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Reply #28 - Nov 10th, 2003 at 12:36pm

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I'd like to see a "Modern World" CFS that would cover 1945 - 2003/4 for both Air Force and Naval campaigns. I'm big on Aircraft Carriers myself and would love to be able to fly from HMS Eagle on mission after mission in a Buccaneer S2 or a Sea Vixen FAW1/2. I probably won't get that specifically but it'd be nice if guided waepons were available as well as a liberal selection of angled deck CV's.
 
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Reply #29 - Nov 11th, 2003 at 8:54pm

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I think CFS4 should have the Persian Gulf War instead of this WWII nonsense, even though I do you CFS2 I would like that better
 

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Reply #30 - Nov 11th, 2003 at 9:16pm

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Well, you're not going to win a lot of fans around here by calling WWII nonsense.  Angry  In fact, it offends me very much that you would show so much disrepect.  Definitely not cool...
 

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Reply #31 - Nov 11th, 2003 at 9:31pm
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I think CFS4 should have the Persian Gulf War instead of this WWII nonsense, even though I do you CFS2 I would like that better


I think that would be interesting having it in the Persian Gulf, but WWII isn't nonsense.  In fact, WWII is probably better.  If you want modern day combat, get "Lock-on: Modern Air Combat" from Eagle Dymanics.
 
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