I'd like to check it out but it doesn't seem to be wanting to play for me.
 You are recording the same way I used to, by doing everything yourself, I did it the same way and programmed the drums on a drum machine, once I wrote and recorded about 15 songs, then I put a band together to play them live, and believe it or not even though it was my project, my music and my band, other members who were invited by me to join would still complain about certain aspects of the way I wanted MY music played.
 I dealt with this sort of thing off and on for almost 20 years, leaving me with no desire to ever be in another band. (The main reason I put together my own studio and recorded everything myself in the first place.) No attitude to deal with but my own.

 Good luck pursuing your music, I wish I could have done more with mine.

Hey, thanks for your reply. I wasn't sure what kind of feedback I was actually going to get since this really is a game forum.

I've been working on this song for quite a while.. hmm.. 6 months at least.. but not just this one. I have 3 others that are being written at the same time. And then many others that where discontinued. I tend to get bored when just working on one song.. after a few weeks of it I start something different.. then a few weeks later I go back to it and try to add something and keep doing it that way back and forth between songs. So when I'm all finished I'll have at least 4 songs done at about the same time. And then the other discontinued songs I usually am able to find something to do with.

I know exactly what you mean when you where talking about playing in bands.. I've pretty much given up on it..
Everytime I present something I wrote to another guitarist they always start telling me that this should be changed and they don't like the way another part works .... then when that person is done with it it isn't even a song I wrote anymore.. Just a few bits and pieces here and their and I usually don't like it. When I spend so much time trying to express one certain feeling in it and have another guitarist just scrap that all away I'm usually not very happy.

The plan is to add vocals to to it.. that is pretty much the plan for all my songs.. but usually once I get the instrument parts finished I'm so eager to move on to something different that I never add the vocals. 

Yeah, definatly isn't much room in the mainstream for music like this.. well unless I start wearing gold chains and try to be 'kewl' like.. well I better not give any examples.. then it might turn into a flame. 

Thanks alot for your comments. I was actually expecting the worst since this isn't a music community. When I get it finished I'll most likely post it here again.

Haha, yeah I need a new drummer. 

I've never heard of any of those bands you mentioned.  I don't listen to much US music though so that might not mean anything. Most of my influence comes from bands in Finland and Sweeden. Children of Bodom and Kalmah being the biggest.. And also Nightwish.

Maybe somebody else will know.

Thanks for your comments to. 

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  Nope, never heard of any of those bands, and I keep up on pretty much everything in most all genres of music, except country.
  I've never heard my brother mention them either and I get a lot of information regarding what's out there from him.
  Must be some seriously underground bands, or more than likely if they are any good and can play more than three chords and make a rhyme, they won't be accepted here in the U.S. except by the real hardcore underground fanatics (true music fans!)

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  Check this out...Back in the day when thrash metal was just getting a following, I was into stuff like Slayer, King Diamond, Possessed, Exodus, the heavier the better in my opinion, so the music I was writing at the time was getting more and more heavy as this type of music surfaced, I had dudes in the band complaining because the songs were too fast or too hard or too heavy, of course as always I was the only one who ever wrote songs, played all the leads and did all the vocals.

  No big secret that in the late 80's I was a big hair guy, and yes my songwriting was 80's pop metal sounding, but it was always on the heavy side, but man, I never expected the type of wussing out some of those guys gave me when my music progressed into an even heavier style. I was trying to move forward while those guys wanted to stagnate and play Poison covers forever.
  Personally I always hated playing cover tunes but would do some just to make folks happy, but we did cool ones (at the time) like Iron Maiden (The Trooper, Flight of Icarus), King Diamond (Halloween), Metallica (Creeping Death, Trapped under ice), Judas Priest (Breaking the law, Another thing comin), and we threw some gay ones in there too like Poison (Talk dirty to me), Kiss (Heavens on Fire, Lick it up) and of course we did "For whom the bell tolls" just like every other band in the world, (I can't stand that song now, after playing it 1000 times).

  The last stuff I wrote was around '97-'98, I still believe it was the best material I ever came up with, always on the heavy side of course, but still melodic enough to have been widely accepted, I always called my songs gay metal, like Type O Negative, very heavy but still gay at the same time, heavy, heavy metal love songs and junk.
  I actually had a manager interested for a short time, until she tried to change everything, I'm like "Nah, you don't tell me how I want my music to sound, it's coming from my head, if anything I want to make it heavier not popish."
  By this time I was so messed up from drugs and alcohol and women that I just dropped everything and moved to Arizona, where I discovered a killer underground scene that was all about original music, but by now I'm getting into my mid 30's and music is turning into three chords and a rhyme, what happened to guitar solo's? I didn't have any of my equipment with me either, or I may have tried to hook up out there.
  I saw some really good original bands in Phoenix, but I think it was too late for that style of music, at least there were places to go and see good musicians playing their tunes, no matter how loud or heavy or technical.

  That's enough ranting from me about my flopped music career, I really believed I was original enough to make it to some degree, if I would have played at the right place at the right time for the right people, but I guess I was born in the wrong place, I should have moved to California in the 80's, I'm sure I could have made something of it.

  Oh well, I guess it wasn't to be, a lot of it due to my own poor judgement and bad decisions.
Such is life.

Hey, and I'm telling you guys, if you really like this kind of music you gotta check out Children of Bodom, Kalmah and Nightwish. You won't regret it. 3 of the best bands I haveheard. 

Edit: that 'glow' command for the font splits up the text.. I could'nt get the last 2 words to stay on the same line.  ???

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You just described me perfectly!   

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Thanks for the comments. Actually the song isn't finished yet. I was just posting what I have of it so far. I agree about how it slows down towards the end their... It doesn't really flow all that good. I've been having trouble with that part.. It's just enough to where I don't want to trash it but yet it needs to be better. This song has come to a screeching halt and probably will remain that way until I can get something worked out.

The drum track isn't the greatest since it's midi... I could also make a bass track in midi but I don't think it would turn out very well. I'm definatly not a bass player.. I was working with a bass player from Egypt over the net for a while though.. I lost contact with him about 7 or 8 months ago. Havn't heard from him since.

I'm glad you had a listen. Thanks for your feedback. 

What you call 'screaming' is very much singing. Bands use vocals that sound 'pleasant' to make up for the lack of pleasantness in the music itself. While this so called 'screaming' is an artform in a different style. They don't need to get people hooked on the pleasant vocals to get them to listen to their music, the instruments are good enough so that they can do a different approach.

Too much music these days are too vocal oriented. If you was to take the vocals off most songs all you would here is a simple chord progression repeating itself over and over again. The song would be pathetic as it is... But on most metal, you could remove the vocals and still enjoy the song. I personally hate music that is oriented around the vocals. They have a couple verses and they repeat the chorus over and over and over again. While the instrument work is very very dull. In most cases vocals are an easy plot to draw your attention away from the 'lacking' instruments.

Screaming isn't that easy too.. I've been working at it for about 3 years now and still can't do it for more than a minute without choking on a lung.

I'm not trying to argue with you are start any kind of argument.. Everybodies opinions are their own.
It's just when I see somebody say they don't like a certain kind of music mosty because of the vocals I feel they are totally missing out. And it automatically turns on my 'defense mechanism'. hehe

okay, everybody got his own taste,but for me,the music and the vocals got to be in harmony with each other,because it just sounds better to me.

If you want to hear some of the best metal their is with non-screaming vocalist check out Nightwish. They have a female vocalist that sings in kind of an opera style. It took me a while to get use to the change from the type of stuff I usually listen to but the music itself is so good I couldn't just not listen to it. Now I listen to that band every day. This band's music is the work of real artists. It's not your mindless shredding type metal.