Simviation Forum - Which to get?

Sep 20^th, 2003 at 10:45am

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I'm thinking of getting something CFS-esque, but I'm not sure which one to get.

I know the CFS series is popular here, but there were problems with 3 (I think it was 3)...

Here's what I'm looking to do. Maybe someone can guide me in the right direction based on my needs:

1. Online missions. I'd love to fly with other pilots on coordinated strikes.

2. Semi-realism. I'm sure nothing is going to match the realism of F$, but I'd like to come close. I want something that isn't too "gamey".

Any suggestions?

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Reply #1 - Sep 20^th, 2003 at 11:24am

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I shouldn't pass negative comment on CFS3 because I never got it to run on my system. Some folk love it, some hate it. It does have some bugs but a patch is available from M$. For me, it has a few issues that are really putting me off (apart from it not running) and these includ those awful non-standard coloured bands and wingtips on the stock planes and the load out on some types (the Spit for one) is not historically correct.
CFS2 has a a vast amount of addons available but it is getting on a bit now. For me, it's still the best, but I'm sure everyone else will tell you different Wink

I don't play on line much so can't really comment on weather CFS2 is better than 3 online.

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Reply #2 - Sep 20^th, 2003 at 12:07pm

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I would suggest CFS2. I don't play online myself but understand there's a great multiplayer community out there. I'm not sure about playing actual missions online.

As for realism, there seem to be a lot of misconceptions about CFS among the FS community. I remember my old friend Bill Potvin saying there's only one M$ Flight Simulator, just different versions of it. The mould was broken with the completely new CFS3 which I still think was a bad mistake. I believe I'm right in saying that FS98 = FS 6.0, CFS1 = FS 6.1, FS2000 = FS 7.0, CFS2 = FS 7.5 & FS2002 = FS 8.0.

The coverage is limited to the different theatres but the CFS1 default scenery was a vast improvement over FS98. (Unfortunately they didn't take full advantage of this & went off at a tangent with FS2000.) The same goes for CFS2/FS2000 regarding scenery quality. The default area can be extended with the many excellent quality 3rd party addons.

A lot of the development work for FS2002 was done in CFS2. The CFS2 designers were creating multi-LOD aircraft with a full DVC long before FS2002 was released. Proper floatplanes too although there are no wakes in the CFS2 water. The AI traffic in FS2k2 is based on the AI aircraft first introduced in CFS1. It's now possible to create aircraft with all the features of the defaults, including full breaking parts. The aircraft are specially designed with a low poly count (for good frame rates in missions) but should work perfectly well in FS2002. Check out what we've done with Korea in the last few months. This is something I've been wanting to do since the early days. http://www.simviation.com/lair/cfs2korea.htm

Sorry to go on but this is an old hobby-horse & CFS is my first love. We're still finding out more about CFS2 every day. It's far from dead. Some people still prefer CFS1. Cheesy

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Reply #3 - Sep 20^th, 2003 at 12:36pm

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I'm getting the impression that CFS2 is the preferred game 'round these parts...and you're all very highly trusted and respected by me, so I'll listen to any suggestions you make. Wink

I think I've played CFS2 at a friend's house. Is that the one that has the comic book like splash screens? I enjoyed that game. lol

At another friend's house I played one that wasn't in the F$ series, but I can't remember the name of it. Unfortunately, not being in the F$ series, there probably aren't too many add ons available.

So I shall take a looksie around and see what I find.

Thanks!

PS...CFS2 is able to play online, right? (All games are better online, IMO, can ya tell? haha)

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Reply #4 - Sep 20^th, 2003 at 1:03pm

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I'm getting the impression that CFS2 is the preferred game 'round these parts...and you're all very highly trusted and respected by me, so I'll listen to any suggestions you make. Wink

Don't take our word for it. I'm biased & don't mind admitting it. I never liked CFS3 & it won't run any sense on my system.

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I think I've played CFS2 at a friend's house. Is that the one that has the comic book like splash screens? I enjoyed that game. lol

That's the one. The comic book screens can be changed. I don't particularly like them.

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PS...CFS2 is able to play online, right? (All games are better online, IMO, can ya tell? haha)

Well, all I know about it is that the guys used to hold a regular SimV combat session online. Think it was every Friday night, GMT. This sorta petered out after CFS3 was released. Roll Eyes

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Reply #5 - Sep 20^th, 2003 at 1:13pm

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Well, all I know about it is that the guys used to hold a regular SimV combat session online. Think it was every Friday night, GMT. This sorta petered out after CFS3 was released. Roll Eyes

Yep, it was a lot of fun 8)

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Reply #6 - Sep 20^th, 2003 at 3:14pm

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Scott, its a tough call. I've got 1 and 3, and love them both. But for 3 you do need a high end system, and the patience to tweak it.
I've not got CFS2 yet, but I'm working on it. Just gotta find it at a reasonable price. Most people really rate 2 for online combat. I haven't tried 3 for this yet.
However as you can pick up 1 for about $10 these days, why not give the classic a go, its the same price as two Starbucks coffees Wink

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Reply #7 - Sep 20^th, 2003 at 6:49pm

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I picked up CFS2....pretty reasonably priced at $20 USD.

Thanks for all your help guys, as always! Now look for my newbie questions in the CFS2 boards!

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Reply #8 - Sep 20^th, 2003 at 7:24pm

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CFS2 is good. With a mediocre system you can still happily blast Zero's out the clear blue skys and say "Wow. Love the graphics".

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