Hey, where's the vote for "I wish Star Trek would just disappear!"  ??

My favorite is TNG, but it's a hard choice-I love them all (except for Enterprise-I haven't really watched it so I just don't know).

haha...I was only joking...but seeing as how you've gone through all of that trouble, just for me.  LOL

My favourite is TNG, but I like them all.

I actually think Enterprise is pretty good. Their ship isn't so powerful that they know they'll win every fight, so I think that makes it a little more interesting. Plus it has the feeling that it has as much in common with NASA or the Air Force as it does with the Federation.

The explanation I've heard about the rewriting of history is that when the TNG crew went back in time in "First Contact" they altered the timeline slightly (or maybe not so slightly).

I, unlike a lot of Star Trek fans, like the opening sequence and song... I like how it tells the story of exploration from sea ships to airplanes and then to space travel. They changed the song a bit this season though... they added a cheesy rock beat that sounds like one of those cheap electric keyboards they sell at Radio Shack. I think Scott Bakula might see that as a bad sign... they changed the theme song for Quantum Leap and not long after that it was cancelled.

And you can tell they're a little worried about the ratings because they've changed a lot of other things too... T'Pols uniform looks more like the one 7of9 wore... and in one scene in the season premiere they show her topless (sort of).

I have one question about the "space marines" that have joined the crew... why do their uniforms look like a bird crapped all over them?  I guess it's supposed to be some kind of camoflauge, but it looks strange. 

Oops, sorry Craig... I forgot about you poor folks that still have to wait a while. 

I think Voyager is my favorite show (nothing to do with Jeri Ryan, honest!) but DS9 had some of the best story lines with the Dominion stuff and the best Trek Starship ever in the Defiant. DS9 was let down a bit with all that Bjoran political and spiritual stuff. When DS9 was good, it was awesome but when it was bad, it was BAD!
Having said all that, my all time favorite episodes are "Yesterdays Enterprise" and "The Best of Both Worlds" from TNG.
I enjoy Enterprise, but I'm not too keen on all the re-writing of Trek history stuff they do, and I have to admit I hate the song.

Yes, Rifleman.  That is one of the greatest Trek lines ever.

One of my other faves is Zephram Cochrane in First Contact:

" . . . And you guys are all astronauts?  On some kinda . . . star trek?"

I repeat to all the groupies who jumped on the bandwagon of the following series, after the original was out of production......

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If not for a great leader (TOS), you will never have a single follower !

...............onward, Tiberius ! 

So many great insights, so many opinions. Very good thread. 

I have to say TNG, but I like them all and have seen every episode of every series at least 4 or 5 times, and some 20 times.

I liked Voyager. I watched that as it was produced. The first one that I did, as I didn't get into TNG until after it finished. I was, unfortunately , for a while like Rifle and considered that only 'The Original and Best" will do.

Then I started to hire TNG from Blockbuster and the rest is History. Honestly Rifle, I was around in the '60's and loved the Original, and didn't particualarly like the idea of a "Spinoff', as you say. But take the time to have a look, particularly at TNG, from the beginning, It's worth it.

All the series, as said before, take a little time to settle in. I don't know if it's the characters or us. But there seems to be a need to get used to the new characters and their situation etc. Plus it's no good trying to enjoy something if you're not up on what's going on. If you're lost, of course you're not going to like it.

I have a particular affinity with DS9. I was ill for a few months and couldn't get out much so me and the Mrs spent day after day (about a series a week), seeing DS9, as Blockbuster had the 6 series, and then we followed the 7th as it came out. I really did get very wrapped up in it. I enjoyed it immensely.
But as someone said, for some reason, the good DS9 ones are great, but the bad ones are really bad.

My favorite episodes of all of them would be a couple of the Double-jobs. "Times Arrow" I love, very interesting and features my two favourite subjects, Time travel and Data.
I actually think the first, "Mission at Farpoint" was a good beginning. Also "The Caretaker" another good beginning. The one where the DS9 crew go back to Kirks time and encounter the "Trouble with Tribbles". Very cleverly done.
(I still NEED that explaination about the Klingons! Worf just fobbed it off.)
Also "Yesterdays Enterprise" is probably the best 'single' episode.

I've seen the 1st series of Enterprise, then the Australian Video and DVD agent for Paramount has deemed it not pouplar enough to keep bringing in. So I have to wait for the TV to get around to it. That's usually 18 months after for Star Trek stuff.
I had trouble getting into it in the beginning (partly because of some 'historical' errors) but I was just beginning to get into it , and they stopped at the end of the 1st series. 

Another, short, concise and succinct post by the Prof. 

Negative votes should be allowed,there's 3 already

it was a disease, it was explained on the official site i believe in an interview and also a few other places i have seen it explained as such. i will try and find out the site for ya

  Am I the only one to vote for the original Star Trek!?  I guess it must be my age!!!
  To be honest, even though I enjoyed all the series that followed the original, I found them bland, "souless", lacking in emotional drive and far too willing to fall back on warfare to fill out plot lines.  Maybe all that political correctness took the punch out of the series.
  Sure the original had cheesy sets and cheesy special effects but it made up for all that with good story lines (with the exception of "Spock's Brain") that were relevent and current to their time.
  Another aspect was that it dealt with the "human" condition, the fact that humans were individules with emotions, feelings and faults.  And that these things made humans better then machines, computers, organized collectives or superiorly evolved beings.  This is a common thread that can be found in many television programs of that era, from the "Twilight Zone" to the "Outer Limits".
  I hope that "Enterprise" makes it and has a good run.  Its interesting to see how it all started but I fear the writers have already screwed up the time line and are falling back to warfare to drive the series.  What ever happpened to....."seeking out new life, to boldy go where no man has gone before".......?  Oh well, at lease T'Pol is easy on the eyes!!

I'm afraid I can't agree with Denishc's comments about the newer series 'resorting' to war or 'agression' to keep the plots alive.

It's true there are a number of 'run in's' in all the series, and of course the entire 'Dominion War' in DS9, but I really don't think there's any more 'violence' or tendency toward war than in TOS. But we're all entitled to our interpretations.......................

The one thing that makes all the later series seem more advanced and 'less complicated' compared to our time and situation, is:
There is not really any mention of 'religion' etc or the 'Failths' as far as Earth is concerned, at all (there are no Jews, Christians, Moslems etc anymore, it seems). Or at least, it's not a 'noteworthy' issue anymore. Not that I recall anyway.

And even the Bajorans (mentioned) seem to be ALL the same religion. An entire planet of people who believe exactly the same thing. I don't even recall any mention of Bajorans who are 'atheists' and don't believe at all.

John Lennon dreamt of and sang about exactly that seemingly impossible thing. 

in reality the galaxy class ship is the most powerful ship of all the major races, it has been said that going on specs alone it could easaly take on 3 romulan D-deridex warbirds, while sustaining heavy damage it would still win, it can take on two K'Tinga class warships from the klingons, and two warships from the dominion(sp?) how ever had the writers really written storylines to its specs there wouldnt be much in the way of an hour long episode:) the early galaxy class vessels, were fitted with 11 type 9 phasers and 4 photon torpedo tubes, once they were upgraded the were given new shields, and 12 type 11 phasers, two photon two quantum tubes, or 4 photon or 4 quantum tubes, making it very powerful,
the real ability of the galaxy class was shown in the dominion war where all avaliable vessels were upgraded to battleships from science, some were given two extra torpedo tubes with quick reload for 6 quantum torpedos, and also 14 type 12 phasers,
this variation has been said to be the only starship other than the soverign class, who could take on a borg cube. its only weak point is its manuverability and its warp speed being 9.7, where as soverign is again 9.98 i believe. thus the reason it was made flagship and given to picard under the name enterprise.
sorry that may have been a little boring, i will look out some indepth specs to those who want them:)

  Yes its true that the original Star Trek had story lines that dealt with war and that there was constant friction between The Federation and the Klingon Empire but these conflicts were used mainly to illustrate the futility of war, a very relevant issue in the late 1960's, and not to drive the series.  The following series seemed to be constantly involved in conflict.
  Whether it was battling the Borg or the Cardasians(sp?) or the Dominion War or who's ever space Voyager was violating conflict seemed to be what that episode's story was about.  And now "Enterprise" has gone off to fight some more (I don't want to give too much away for those who haven't seen "Enterprise" yet), with a complement of Marines.  (One complement of Marines to battle a whole world!?  Hummm......they must be U.S. Marines!!!)
  Anyway you can see the direction the series is taking.  What ever happened to exploration, seeking out new planets and new races?  And what about building The Federation?  These are the subject lines that "Enterprise" should be dealing with.

it was designed to. but look at its size,
they have the pulse cannon which is meant to get through the sheilding of the borg, but since a cube is god knows how many of times bigger than a defiant class, its irellivant, it is great against the borg pyramids and diamonds though.

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Good point. I don't take this stuff seriously enough to be offended although I have heard some people used to get uptight about it. It's only a soap after all. Words never bothered me anyway. I've been called much worse.

Good point prof, to say that Romulons are related to Vulcans and not Humans!
I know Remus is a dark planet, but Remans look very different to Romulons, almost a totally different race, but both planets were settled by the same people.

your correct on the romulans being vulcans who chose not to surpress their emotions, there was of coarse sybok(spocks half brother) who i believe gave a full reason in one of the movies.

I'd buy that Klingon thing if:-
A: We had not seen "new" Klingons in Enterprise, set well before Kirk and co.
B: Kang, Kor and Koloth, three Klingons who first turned up in TOS looking Human had not turned up again looking like "new" Klingons in DS9!

So then, we've now destroyed the credibility of the two main Trek bad guys What can we dig up on the Cardasians?

I've voted for the origional, I have to agree with Rifleman that all the others are ultimately just spin off's.

And the real reason that Klingon's changed so much in just 120 years is that Makeup technology got better......

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Sorry mate, got confused...............again.

I thought the one where the three old blokes went after the Albino was a TNG episode.

Is Kor (the one played by Colicos) also the name of the Klingon played by Colicos that was Kirks 'nemisis'?
I know one of the old blokes was supposed to be that particular bloke.

(I could look it up, but it's quicker to ask you............lol )   

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No worries pal, with all those shows I often get my facts wrong and I consider myself to be a total Trek Geek!
Anyway, John Colicos and both the others play the same characters that they played in TOS. I thought it was a nice touch to have them return as the characters they had played before. Michael Ansara also makes an appearance as Ms. Troi's husband in a DS9 show and plays Kang in the Voyager show "Flashback" where Tuvok recalls his adventures as part of Captain Sulu's crew on the Excelsior.

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Err... Galaxy class a good battle machine with those horrilbly slow moving gun control things which have to move in position from the front before it can fire? i dop't think so.
And the joint between the fuselage and the top disc is an easy target (or are those yellow cardassian phasers so much stronger)

The worst continuity errors can be found in DS9... especially the top turret if the Defiant (which is actually Defiant-B (NX number) and Defiant-C(2nd ship) because there was one 'Defiant' somewhere in the first star-trek series) which sometimes works but seems to fail (or is deactivated) when it's needed the most

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Uhmmmm . . . what turret?

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Don't be silly mate. I was only joking.............

I think (may be wrong) that Ivan is talking about how, when the Enterprise fires phasers, there seems to be a 'circling motion' of the energy aorund the 'disk' to the point where they fire from. 

Is this right Ivan?