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Sep 7th, 2003 at 2:22pm

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I just saw on TV they're making a new movie about the Alamo.  Fantastic!  Our family supposedly has an anscestor that died there but I can't prove it.  If you look at the casualty list, there is a Ryan on it.  I have been to the real Alamo twice and both times, I was filled with a sense of awe I have rarely felt anywhere else.  I can't think of any story that has ever moved me more.   189 Texas volunteers against something like 4000 Mexican soldiers.  I don't think a better story has ever been told.  It's about time someone did a realistic retelling of this famous battle.
 

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Reply #1 - Sep 7th, 2003 at 2:34pm

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  Hopefully they won't turn it into a mushy Hollywood love story like they did with Pearl Harbor.
 

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Reply #2 - Sep 7th, 2003 at 2:41pm

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It doesn't look like they will.  Check out the website and look at the trailer.  Awesome!

http://www.thealamofilm.com/
 

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Reply #3 - Sep 7th, 2003 at 2:57pm

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Isn't there a movie about the alamo with John Wayne???
 
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Reply #4 - Sep 7th, 2003 at 2:59pm

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  Looks like it's going to be a good one, these types of movies are awesome when they stick closely to the actual history of the event, instead of being watered down with a bunch of fluff and macho man stars to try and attract a female audience.
 

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Reply #5 - Sep 7th, 2003 at 3:01pm

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Isn't there a movie about the alamo with John Wayne???


  Yeah, I think it was called "The Alamo", from the 50's or 60's.
 

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Reply #6 - Sep 7th, 2003 at 3:18pm

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Best let Oso know, thats his corner of the world Grin
 

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Reply #7 - Sep 7th, 2003 at 4:01pm

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 Yeah, I think it was called "The Alamo", from the 50's or 60's.

I was about 11-12 when it was out.....walked 3-4 miles to see it, payed a quarter and sat through it twice since in those days, they never kicked you out once it was finished if there was not a big crowd lined up outside....What a movie........


just checked, the movie was 1960, so I must have been 10-11 when I saw it.....also starred Richard Widmark, and Richard Boone (Paladin, for the oldies who may remember) ....
 

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Reply #8 - Sep 7th, 2003 at 6:17pm

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This new rendition was filmed in my home town, a little truck stop just outside Austin, TX called Dripping Springs.  I even went out to see the set when I was there! Shocked  It was incredible!  The entire thing was set up in a little part of the Hill Country (yeah, capital letters) that looks nothing like San Antonio, but somehow they shot the movie juuuussst right.

The day I went to see the set was the day after they shot the first part of the first day of the battle.  The place was a mess.  There were rifles lying EVERYWHERE, some standing up against walls, others leaned up against each other, and a lot just lying around in general.  It was as if I were actually there, and the feeling was incredible!!!

It was also supposed to star the guy who plays Aragorn in The Lord of the Rings (forgot his name) as William Barrett Travis, my great, great, great grandfather, whom I am named for (Travis is my first name).  But apparently he was replaced by some guy named Patrick Wilson, who I have never heard of . . . some relation to Owen Wilson?

But it should be great, anyway.  Billy Bob Thornton is a great actor, and Jason Patric can certainly hold his own, although that casting surprised me a lot.  And I'm not sure about Dennis Quaid, but I'm keeping an open mind. Roll Eyes

I most likely am going to see this as soon as it comes out, maybe even the opening show.  I can barely wait . . . Grin
 

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Reply #9 - Sep 8th, 2003 at 1:35am
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Thanks Ozzy, but one cannot help but be aware of it around here. The word on the streets is that it is a PC version that will invoke Mexican sympathies rather than Texan.

I hope not.

I am sick and tired of Hollywood rewriting history to suit their ideas of what should have been.

We shall see.
 
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Reply #10 - Sep 8th, 2003 at 5:38am

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 Hopefully they won't turn it into a mushy Hollywood love story like they did with Pearl Harbor.


i'd have to agree with you there - and they also have to make it
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accurate unlike Pearl Harbour.
 
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Reply #11 - Sep 11th, 2003 at 5:05pm

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There is going to be a big red carpet premiere here in San Antonio in December.  They are going to hold it the Majestic theater on the River Walk.   Those familar with San Antonio will know what kind of theater the Majestic is...one of the most most beautiful facilites I have ever seen.  I've lived in San Antonio for 16 years and I had never been to the Majestic until I went to see Phantom of the Opera there...I was blown away.

As a side note, the John Wayne version of the Alamo also premiered in San Antonio.

I hope they do a good job on this film...

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Reply #12 - Sep 12th, 2003 at 12:08am

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Without invoking ethnic sympathies, a historically accurate retelling of the "Alamo" is possible.

Remember - Tejas was a province of Mexico, sparsley populated, with a strong immigrant population of Anglos.  The facts of Santa Anna's presidency aside, once these immigrants started making noises for separation and independence from Mexico, of course, the Mexicans had to try to put the insurrection down.

Also, these immigrants wanted to establish and import slaves, and slavery had already been abolished. 

Faced with the possibility of fighting against the Mexican regular army, these Texan immigrants started bringing in mercenaries - "freedom fighters" such as Davy Crockett.

These are just general issues/points, not to take away from the actual valor and bravery of all the participants.  In attacking a fortification, the defenders generally have the upper hand until there is a breach.

Strategically, it can be argued that the stand at the Alamo could have been avoided, and the decisive victory for the Texans would come later.

As with England and its rebellious colonies, other preocupations also had their toll in the Mexicans pursuing the Texans - finally, pursuing a campaign in the vast region of Texas became undesirable, and the Mexicans cut the cord.

In history, there are two sides to every story, and a historically correct account may not necessarily be "politically correct".  The 1960 John Wayne movie was not exactly a highlight of historical accuracy.


(Note:  I have no professed "sympathy" for one side or the other in this issue - which c an be emotional.)


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Thanks Ozzy, but one cannot help but be aware of it around here. The word on the streets is that it is a PC version that will invoke Mexican sympathies rather than Texan.

I hope not.

I am sick and tired of Hollywood rewriting history to suit their ideas of what should have been.

We shall see.

 

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Reply #13 - Sep 12th, 2003 at 3:28am

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189 Texas volunteers against something like 4000 Mexican soldiers.  I don't think a better story has ever been told.


There was of course the time when 98 British regulars took on 6000 Zulu warriors.....  And won Wink

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Reply #14 - Sep 12th, 2003 at 9:10am

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Even though I'm about as Irish as they come (Kevin Ryan?) I've always been fascinated by the story of Masada and the stand there.  It didn't have much of a happy ending, but they did take the moral high ground in their decision to commit suicide rather than surrender...
 

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