From this point forward I will no longer purchase anything from Amazon.com until they stop supporting child molestation.  This is sick and has no business even being published.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0967699703/qid=1061927438/sr=8-1/r...


Here is a copy of the e-mail I sent them:

Sirs, This is to inform you that as long as your company continues to carry books promoting child molestation, and maintains a bulletin board where these twisted individuals can express their opinions, I will no longer purchase from your site.  Not only is this wrong, you are making yourselves an accesory to the destruction of countless innocent lives the animals harm.  By giving them a forum in your review section, they are able to contact each other and propogate their vice.

As of this date, I am cancelling all current orders (1 pending) and will no longer place new ones.  PLease rectify the situation so that I may return to purchase again.

(link to page furnished)

Regards,
   Kevin Ryan
   Chicago, Ill

Please join me in boycotting Amazon and ask for the removal of this travesty.

Kevin. I read about this with astonishment in today's newpapers although I had no idea about a forum. I support you 100%. It's rather optimistic but if enough people follow your lead they might put morals before profit for once.

Well, that was certainly quick. The link worked at the time of my previous reply. What I find worrying is that this rubbish was published in the first place. You can be sure they will find another way of distributing it. At least with Amazon it was out in the open & sales could be monitored. I really don't know the answer or the best way to protect our children from these ******.
Sorry, for once I'm at a loss for words. This is the price we pay for free speech & tolerance.

Ignore my last, I just read Craigs comments and tried again and got in this time. Amazon are sick!

Ozzy

OH GOD!    I think I'm going to be sick! 

I read some of the customer reviews and... just disgusting!

Living near Toronto, a place were the government likes to dump "reformed" child molesters, I hear of this all too often. This is just encouraging highly criminal activity. I'd be reporting this to the FBI.

We in Canada had a similar problem just this past year. A book written by Carla Hamolka, one of Canada's most infamous paedophiles and killers.  She took part in the rape murder of three teenage girls back in the early 90s, one being her own biological sister, all under 14. She actually wrote a book on the crime and there has been a lot of people wanting in to be banned. I am one of them. There is also the Holly Jones case where the 10 year old was raped and hacked to bits by a paedophile just this past spring. There is a big push in Canada to stop these people including forcing them to register their DNA.

I just got a look at what all the fuss is about, and it made me genuinely sick!   If I could find the sick SOB that wrote it, the things I would do!!!  OOOHHHHHHH, the things I WOULD DO!!!!!!

I am aghast that Amazon could be sponsoring something as atrocious as this book.  What really scares me, however, is the reviews that came through.  When I read the first one, I was a little more optimistic, seeing that the person was as outraged at the subject on the book as I was, but once I got down to the second and third ones, I became increasingly weirded out and horrified: people were actually admitting to being twisted and sick, and then PROMOTING the book!

I am sorry, I am usually a tolerant and understanding person, but in this situation, I am completely upset and disgusted.

Ender_Baron signing off . . .

I've also taken this to the next level, and I've sent it to two local talk radio hosts, it's going to go to some national ones as well...

I've sent it to all of the local television stations and everyone in my address book with the hopes and instructions to not put their morals behind profits, as is the case with amazon.com.  (I've also emailed them with my boycot intentions...)

If anyone else would like to do the same, maybe we can end this crap....or at least this part of it.

Welcome to the world in which sick perverted people can now profit from their criminal activities and try and convince those of us whose brains work normally that their perversion is a recognisable "Lifestyle Choice"

I am not lost for words on this, unfortunately the forum rules mean that I cannot use them.

I'm not going to use smilies to illstrate how I feel because this goes way beyond it.  If you are 'normal' in the western world you have to accept every minority viewpoint and give it equal weight with your own.  This is the final one.  Th straw that broke the camels back.  Banning books is something I've always seen as dangerous, it reminds me of totalitarian governments and implies control of the population, ie polititians deciding what is OK for me to read and therefore think.

On this occasion I think that the various governments should do the following.

1.  Ban this book
2.  Arrest the author, give him a fair trial and then sentence him to the maximum allowable for the various offences that he clearly supports and admits to.
3.  Arrest and do the above to the board of directors of the publishers of the book.
4. Ditto for Amazon.com.
5. Track down every person who has purchased this book and place them on the sex offenders register.

Those of us who live normal lives, irrespective of colour, creed or nationality have to take a stand against these destructive forces that want to make us believe that everybody deserves equal rights.  A mentally subnormal pervert who preys on small children does not deserve any rights in the civilised world.

The internet is already infested with their evil.  Amazon should be closed down for giving them the opportunity to speak.  I feel this very strongly, there s a certain line that simply should not be crossed, they have crossed it and must now suffer the consequences.  There can be no acceptance that pedophillic relationships are even remotely normal, no help for the perpatrators, only help and support to the victims

Will

Not sure of an addy, but if you go to www.amazon.com, there's a page for "Contact Us" and you can submit your email directly through the site. 

Unfortunately, you can't really send it to your congressperson or other government representative, especially here in the US.

They do have a first ammendment right to write and sell this book.

However, does that make it ethical?  Absolutely not.  We can try to get Amazon to pull it, but we can't get the government to squash it.

Words cannot....well you know...I'm with you all the way, I too I'm going to send this to some local talk radio stations.

Sock   

I agree, Orenda.  My parents used to always tell my sister and I, "For every right, there's a responsibility."

Very true here, as well.

Nope.  I can write a book about how to mass murder busloads of orphans, and I can't be arrested for it, because I'm not actually doing it.

However, if this book were to be written describing actual events and those responsible are revealed, we're talking about something entirely different.

My suspicion though is that the book was written in very vague terms as far as offender identification.

Read it again, Pip...Andrew wasn't using that as an excuse.  The context it was used in was that those who publish this book will try to use that as justification.

Andrew actually went on to say that there must be a way around that defense, which there is.

Unfortunately, it can't come from a governmental body, it's got to come from the people, which is what all of us who tell Amazon.com and the media what we think of these kinds of acts are doing....

I have emailed about 50 people on my email list, along with news  organizations in Ithaca and Syracuse , NY and Reno, NV.

We may have found the answer to the question "How dumb can you get?" Amazing.

Being a vet, I subscribe to a simple solution: don't buy it and encourage other to do the same. Informing Amazon about a ban is handling things of this nature correctly.  Treat this no different TV programs that you do not agree with. Some people just need to learn how to turn the TV off, or change the channel.

Censorship is bad, even wen the subject matter is replusive. When the first person looses their right - even if richly deserved, it opens the flood gates. Censorship is as evil as the junk it tries to "protect us" from.

Since guns were mentioned, I own several. None of them have ever suddenly jumped out of the gun cabinet and discharged without the help of a person.  They are neither good or bad, the same as a car. Just because people kill while driving drunk doesn't mean we should outlaw cars or alchol. This has already been mentioned: with a rights come responsibility.

I'm done, sorry for getting long winded. Opinons are like noses, everyone has one and they all smell - including mine.

Jes

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I couldn't agree more about censorship Jester.  Most things should never be censored, however this is a special case.  There are quite a few books out there that deal with this subject.  Books written by victims and text books designed to train the psychiatrists and psychiatric nurses that have to deal with the perpatrators of these horrible crimes.

In the UK we have a law that stops criminals from profiting from their crimes, you probably have one in the states as well.  If a drug dealer is arrested here and cannot prove his income that allowed him to buy a 30 roomed mansion and his fleet of cars it is confiscated by the state.

This book is written by a sick individual who likes to abuse under age boys.  From the reviews on the Amazon page it would seem that he is justifying what he does and trying to inform us of how it should be seen as normal.  This is not and will never be acceptable.  Censorship stinks because the government tells adults what they may and may not listen to.  It is intended to protect free thinking individual who are old enough to make their own decisions.  Stopping the publication of this book would protect the young.

I don't allow my daughter to watch horror films as I wish to protect her, I want to ban this book for the same reason.  This is not a politically subversive book, it is not dangerous to any government, it is not unacceptable to only a small portion of the population.  It is not bad on religious or moral grounds.  There is no moral code that can be dignified with the term that allows the abuse of children

There is no need to offer any support for paedophiles and allow them to give each other guidance.  They have to be hounded and tracked down until none remain.

Will

Very much so, Andrew.

I do believe censorship is not necessarily evil.  As parents we censor every day.  We censor what our children see, read, and hear in an effort to teach them morals and ethics for their life.  We do it because, as civilised people, we set boundaries as to what is acceptable and what is not.  As we speak, there is the problem of shielding children from internet porn and predators on the web because people claim that doing obscene sex acts is considered free speech.

I only read 2 and a half pages of this thread. I didn't bother to read the rest because the posts I read have moved me deeply.

I also refuse to live in a world where sex offenders are given equal rights. I clearly understand that the constitution grants people the right to choose, but such an action made by an offender is not a choice. It is a crime. Remember, crime does not pay, the criminal does.

I know a congressman for Florida that will probably help us bring down those who made the offenses and bring down those who support such offenses. I think his name is Lincoln Diaz-Balartz (the congressman of Florida). I had my picture taken with him one time. My parents know exactly where the building is where he goes for business.

I'll try sending him a letter notifying him of this situation. This should also help us notify those in the Legislative branch.

I'll tell my neighbors about this as well. Maybe they know someone who can really help put a stop to this madness.

Do any of you people have any way of notifying the news? Like NBC, BBC, ABC, CNN, WSVN7, and so on. That will spread the word out like wildfire.

When I read the info, I felt like I was gonna to throw up my intestines. Really. These criminals will not get away it. NOBODY ESCAPES JUSTICE!!!!!!!!

Man, too bad nobody can put limitations on the internet. Like always, the internet has gotten worse. And now it has become like the American Wild West, it's totally lawless territory.

Child molesters have always come up with some stupid @55 excuse for what they did. And their remarks are as stupid as their criminal act.

I saw a show on NBC that's called "Law & Order: Criminal Intent".

On this episode, a doctor had molested his step-son. The investigators found out about this. When they got him, the guy came up with a remark that makes him sound like he doesn't know what he's doing:

Suspect - "Look, parents are supposed to love their children, right?"

This comment makes any offender give away this message to the prosecuters: "Hey look, I did it!!!" It's like shooting off a signal flare behind enemy lines.

This is just a TV show, but it clearly states that such crimes are NEVER to be tolerated and that the offenders are stupid at what they say to defend themselves.

I guess that's what they're gonna say in real life when they're caught.

I don't think I would compare this situation to a television show.  (Especially the WORST Law and Order series...the first one was the best!)

I agree completely Jesster!