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another sniper (Read 728 times)
Aug 18
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sky news is reporting that there seems to be another round of sniper attacks in the US, this time in West Virginia. they are reporting it to be a copycat round of the washington sniper, i am hoping someone in the states can shed some light on this as they only gave a short report on it here.
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Aug 18
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Terrible buisiness. People are just absolutly sick sometimes. You know, granted, I like to start up Vice City sometimes and go to the top of a building and snipe people, but that's just a game. And these guys think it's a game too.
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Aug 18
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another Al-Quaeda spuuorting madhead with a gun...
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Aug 18
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Ivan just 'cos someone kills doesn't mean they are a muslim nutter.
Its tragic that there are mentally disturbed people that feel that they have to do something like this to get their 5 mins of fame
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Aug 18
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What worries me is that more & more people seem to have problems separating fantasy from reality. I don't think the continual graphic violence we're bombarded with on TV, films & games helps in this respect. Even little kids are allowed to watch this nonsense these days & see it as normal.
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Aug 18
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Now, now, now...let's not get any misinformation into the air. People tend to freak out when they hear things like this. lol
The Associated Press is reporting that the police have requested the assistance of the FBI because they're not sure if they're dealing with one individual or more than one. The three shootings thus far may not even be connected at all. The only common thread they share is that all three individuals were killed at or near gas stations and/or convenience stores.
And Ivan...please be careful about throwing the words al Qaeda into something prematurely...I've seen similar forums turn to anti-muslim forums based on someone doing just that. There is no indication right now that ANY terrorism is involved, let alone al Qaeda...
This could change later on, but this is all they're saying right now...
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Aug 18
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thats why i was hoping for someone with more info from the states to add to it:)
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Aug 18
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Scott the British media are saying that the weapon is the same type in all the shootings. Can you give us any more data?
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Aug 18
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Another Sniper???
Havn't heard anything of this sort, maybe I should watch the news
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Aug 18
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What worries me is that more & more people seem to have problems separating fantasy from reality. I don't think the continual graphic violence we're bombarded with on TV, films & games helps in this respect. Even little kids are allowed to watch this nonsense these days & see it as normal.
I agree Hagar...it's not a matter of children emulating what they see on television and hear on the radio. It's the result of parents not raising their own children.
Too many parents want other people (ie government, teachers, etc) to do the parenting, and not take the responsibility on themselves.
However, in their defense, I'd also point out that schools and government haven't exactly been handed this without asking for it.
Lawmakers and educators have been slowly taking away parental
rights
responsibilities for quite a while...
Chicken or the egg 2003....
Mark, I hadn't heard that, but if I should hear anything, I'll let you guys know.
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Aug 18
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Another Sniper???
Havn't heard anything of this sort, maybe I should watch the news
Maybe it's better that you don't. I avoid it if at all possible. LOL
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Aug 18
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IN RESPONSE TO OZZY:
There are some similarities, according to CNN. Slugs from two of the shootings share common characteristics, indicating that perhaps they were fired from the same weapon, or same type of weapon, and the third was too damaged to tell.
All three victims were shot within a four day period (#'s 2 and 3 within an hour of each other) at convenience stores, in the head, with a single shot, from a distance.
The mayor of the town, however, is saying that its still too early to tell.
IMHO, it does seem like an awful lot of coincidences, doesn't it?
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Aug 18
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A lot of horrific coincidences there. It tragically looks like a sick individual doing a copy cat
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Aug 18
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Who knows...I gave up trying to figure people out a long time ago. lol
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Aug 18
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Looks like another copy cat. Seems to be happening a lot. Just this past summer there was some guy going arround grabing kids in Toronto after the much reported Holly Jones murder case. Like Hagar said, people seem to have a big problem separating reality and fiction. On the other hand, some wish to turn another's reality into their own. That's where you get copy cat crimes. Another example is the Taber Alberta school shooting shortly after Columbine.
I partially blame the media for over reporting things. Too much reporting on a criminal event gives deranged people ideas.
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Aug 19
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Ivan just 'cos someone kills doesn't mean they are a muslim nutter.
Its tragic that there are mentally disturbed people that feel that they have to do something like this to get their 5 mins of fame
Ozzy
err the first one admitted he has some sympathies with UBL... but still they need a ban on guns in the whole of the USA
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Aug 19
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Don't go there on the gun laws in the US Ivan. Our American members are pretty evenly split down the middle on this issue, and last time the arguement went on for weeks
Personally I think that in controlled conditions shooting is fine. Letting anyone get a gun and carry it on the streets... err no!
I enjoy shooting and am a member of several clubs.
Let us hope that the police catch this individual soon, before anyone else dies. There is a lot of info on this guy already. Overweight, white, middle aged driving a maroon pick-up. According to the news this morning.
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Aug 19
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Ivan, I'm not sure where you're getting your information, but there is no ban on guns throughout the entire country.
Second, just because the first sniper was a Muslim, doesn't mean that the person or persons responsible for these latest shootings is a Muslim.
Third, the Muslim religion does not condone violence and murder. As someone who has spent considerable time studying various religions, I can assure you that Muslims do not all go around killing people.
Just thought you'd want to know the truth...
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Aug 19
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Jst because they said it was a copycat action... exactly the same pattern, shooting people near gas stations so there could be some connection between the suspects (or not at all, but that's for the cops to find out)
Just the kind of stuff where you don't need aircraft, trucks, nukes, anthrax or other stuff the security department checks for at the moment, just one of the thousands of guns you have in the USA.
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Muslims do not all go around killing people.
i agree 100% with that
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Aug 19
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Jst because they said it was a copycat action...
True copycat criminals generally follow the pattern, but don't necessarily have the same ideology. In fact, most of the time their agenda is publicity and notoriety, not a similar belief system.
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Just the kind of stuff where you don't need aircraft, trucks, nukes, anthrax or other stuff the security department checks for at the moment, just one of the thousands of guns you have in the USA.
Huh?
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Aug 19
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if the guy is a terrorist i mean, not a freaked-out decent citizen but a guy hired by someone to spread fear in a cheap-as-possible way.
Anyway, even in Amsterdam you run the risk of being perforated with 9mm while being an innocent bystander, as the underworld seems to be trigger-happy the last months
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Aug 19
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Ivan, all due respect, but you're making absolutely no sense.
There have been no reports to indicate that what you're saying is true, and in fact, that is what will spread fear...people spreading false information.
Second, terrorist organizations are among the wealthiest "companies" in the world. They're hardly inhibited by the "let's do it cheap" philosophy.
Third, what in God's name are you talking about as far as the gun issue? You're all over the place, dude!
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