ok i wont post the actual rant until one of the Mods has said its ok to, i promise it wont be to political or at least nothing that could be considered offensive to anyones government. but the reason i am waiting for approval is it may be a little strong.
cheers.
Craig

I feel the danger is offending someone and they
not reply, It would shed a bad light! We would
never know!!

I too have a interest in these things!!

Brad

The danger is indeed existant. The biggest problem is someone saying something, meaning no  harm, and another person will understand the statement wrong, and become upset by the comment. Pretty simple really.

Its just best if we keep politics out of an international group.

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Because people get upset over something and make statements that they don't think through-it happens to all of us.  Then, it justs gets worse from there.

I highly doubt that Pete will allow this because of past problems. We've already lost a member this week due to a misunderstanding. Politics gets people angry or scares people off. What causes the flame wars is people who should not be involved, get invlolved. I can make fun of Canada all I want, which I do.   I don't mind if other people make fun of Canada too but other Canadians here may feel offended. I'm probably the least politically correct person I know but I still know when to draw the line, unfortunately a lot of people do not. Just remember these things. Here's Orenda's rules for forum etiquet

1. You can criticise places you have never been too all you want, jut remember that nobody eles wants to hear that. Don't post things like that.

2. Remember that too many people get involved in things they shouldn't. Even if you plan to discus this with members of your own nation, remember that people who are not invited will feel the need to comment. This ties in with rule #1.

3. I don't care if your a Republican, Democrat, Liberal, Commie, etc. Remember that nobody eles does either so don't talk about your political alliances.

4. If you want to talk politics with others with similar opinions, join a political party. Remember that this is a international community.

This stuff may seem simple and common sense but a surprising amount of people neglect to keep these in mind.

I still stand by my view that those who CAN discuss those things maturely should be able to...just another example of morons ruining things for the rest of the crowd...

Oh well...

I know it's not my decision, never claimed otherwise.  Just stating my opinion. 

okie dokie here goes.
Ok so we all know now the TSA are the security force for the US airports, they have created some good rules, enforced cockpit doors, and a few other hidden things.
but now for the rant.
Ok first off, the amount of workers they have, i was at memphis a while back and at the security gate they had, 2 machines open, which when i was there before 9/11 had 4 open, with only the required workers. post 9/11 they had a TSA worker, to tell you to take your laptop out of the case, they had a worker there to hand out plastic tubs for your belongings that are metal, they had a person checking the x-ray machine, two people doing the metal detector another person to take the plastic case, a person to direct you, and 3 people doing any extra pat down searches. and this is per security lane, not for the entire area. now why couldnt the person telling you to take the laptop out of its case also giving directions and handing out the plastic tubs. there two workers cut down there, next at the pat down stage, the speed which lines move you only need 2 people to do the pat down searches.  and now the latest things, they have created two lists, one is a no fly list(a TSA and airline combined list), which is still in the planning stages, this is a list where should a person be suspected of causing any trouble(note the fact not having caused trouble) they can be banned from flying for two years, and because of names being the same this will create problems for those who have done nothing wrong.and a simmilar list, that is a DO NOT FLY list this was created only and run only by the TSA, they have a list of people who are suspected of terrorist links, and will not fly and subject to arrest, now a david smith is on this list, problem is that is an extremely common name, and every david smith is now subjected to some extensive checks while checking in. and obviously some other names. And now my favorate. which is more of an older thing but being enforced, the fact they now expect that terrorists will use small personal items such as cameras, cd players, cell phones and gameboys as weapons, and now require you like laptops to switch them on, now my problem here is, in a busy security hall, there could be 500 people in close proximity, should said laptop camera and so on contain a bomb, would it be such a good idea to honestly test it out, there? one button, explosion, 500 dead people where as if they just put it through an extra scan or two no explosion and they can catch the problem. Now i know its very unlikely to see this happen, but it could and i have a feeling it may happen one day.
then of coarse because of these new times of political correctness, they can no longer subject people of middle eastern origin to extra checks, for fear of being considered racisist or persicuting them, but to seem fair they subject poor old granny in a wheel chair to extra searches or little jimmy coming home from disney world to extra wanding. now i am not racisist never have been but why should anyone but kept from extra checks because of where they are from. its getting silly.
and finally these workers are being paid over $15's an hour but require no formal qualifications, they complain theres a budget crisis, where theres the reason, the last security who did a good job as it was were on about $6's an hour.
the government should never have made this agency a private company who have free rule of everything they desire, they are above pretty much everything and are turning us air travel into something that resembles cold war era eastern europe.  i can understand the need for safety, but the whole constitution has been torn up by these people. the freedoms americans once enjoyed have been taken away, and there really was no need for it.
ok sorry if this was a long rant but i felt i had to get this out of my system.  and please if any mods deem this to be removable please do, no hassle about it from myself.
Cheers guys
craig