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Aug 7th, 2003 at 5:55pm

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I am thinking of making a set of rudder pedals using another joystick setup on a board  with pedals using string to operate the joystick X and Y axsis... One that will either plug into the sound card or USB port but depends on the joystick i end up with....My question is will FS2002 allow me to run 2 joysticks at the same time and if it will does anyone know how this is achieved within FS2002 ie (settings)   Thanks for any input on this......... Smiley
 

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Reply #1 - Aug 7th, 2003 at 6:17pm

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I have been trying to work out how to do the same thing.  I think it will work because if I leave my joypad in the slot then the program seems to look at both for any command inputs.  It seems to think that the right hand "stick" of the joypad is the throttle and therefore "sticks" at approximately 50% open, ie the centre point of the Joypad stick.

If you added a second one function "joystick" that controlled the rudders you shouldn't (hopefully) have too many problems.

Good luck and keep us updated on progress, and remember to remove the rudder axis from your primary controller and only have the rudder axis on the rudder controller!

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Reply #2 - Aug 7th, 2003 at 10:37pm

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Ok Smoke2much i found this & it mite be the cheapest way to do it..Home made rudder pedals for $15

When I started taking flight training my instructor said that if I was using Flight Simulator I should get rudder pedals to practise using my feet. I couldn't afford $200 for rudder pedals and it was soon after that I realized that I couldn't afford flight training either!

But I knew I wanted rudder pedals so I went about figuring a way to make my own. I can't claim this is an original idea. I saw a version of homebuilt pedals posted on the Web about a year ago. I couldn't find those plans again so I took the basic idea and redesigned it to suit my set up. They are simple to build, work well, and cost a fraction of commercial rudder pedals.

You'll need:
--An old joystick (I had an analog Wingman Attack that I don't use anymore. Even new it costs about $15)
--An open USB port
--A bit of lumber; I used a three-foot length of 1-inch by 6-inch pine  for the base and two 8-inch pieces of 1 by 4 pine for the pedals
--Some strong cord. I used mason's string which is strong and won't stretch. I tried picture frame wire at first, but found it wasn't flexible enough to allow the pedals to move freely.
--Two small pulleys. They cost a couple of bucks at a hardware store
--A couple of 90-cent hinges to mount the rudders to the base, two small screw-type eyebolts and two snap fasteners.

I took the old joystick and removed the plastic handle, leaving just a nylon stump.
I mounted the Wingman joystick at the centre of the cross support of my computer hutch as shown in the jpeg, driving a couple of screws through areas where I was sure there were no wires or electronics.
Attach the pulleys at the sides of the hutch as shown, either with screws or small bolts.

The pedals themselves are just 1 by 4 by 8 inch pieces of pine, attached with a common type hinge to a base. I added 'non-skid' tape (the type you would put on stairs) to the pedals to keep my feet from slipping. Another strip of non skid tape is on the bottom of the base and keeps the pedals in place on the carpet. (You'll have to find your own solution to keep the pedals in place on an uncarpeted floor. They will slip.)
The pedals are a little bit wider apart than I would like, but I did it this way to keep the cord as close to vertical as possible in the run from the pulleys to the pedals.

The cord is about five-feet long and is secured in the centre to the joystick. Each end of the cord runs out through the pulleys and down to the pedals  I tied simple snap fasteners to each end of the cord and clip these to small eyebolts screwed into the end of the pedals. That makes it easy to unclip the pedals and move them out of the way if you need to. You have to take care when attaching the string to make sure the pedals feel even and have the same amount of up and down movement.

Hook up the joystick to the open USB port and configure it through FS2002. I use an MS Force feedback as my main flight control so I had to delete the z-axis assignment to the rudders on it.
I deleted all the buttons and axis assignments on the Wingman Attack 2, then assigned the y-axis to the rudder. You'll have to calibrate the Wingman to your pedal setup.

For the first few days I had to recalibrate the rudders several times, but they have since settled down. It does add a touch of realism to the sim, however, as you should do a 'walk around' before each flight to ensure the rudder movement is free and correct.

There are more sophisticated homebuilt rudder pedals around. (Rob Barendregt's are notable, but were a little too involved for my skills. Search for rcbped.zip.) But this setup is very simple and effective. The only thing I had to buy were the hinges, the lumber and the snaps, so in all, I spent less than $15 dollars on it. The setup took less than an hour. I've been using them for a month without any trouble at all.

I hope you find they work for you.

Blair Crawford
Ottawa, Canada
crawood@sympatico.ca

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hope this helps someone out there and it looks cheap and easy to make...(no wiring to do)
 

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Reply #3 - Aug 8th, 2003 at 6:45am

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Thanks for that PAGE,its got me thinking. I really do NEED pedals! I've just rearranged the 'flight centre' and have more room to move,the office desk has a fairly solid floor brace,now if I shift the filing cabinet to use as a centre console.....Hmmm..
 

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Reply #4 - Aug 8th, 2003 at 9:32am

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I think Mrs. Packercolinl needs to ensure he never ever, EVER sees the homebuilt cockpits that are out there....lol
 

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Reply #5 - Aug 8th, 2003 at 9:57am

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Well,actually, I was wondering how much a disused Drive-In Theatre might be. Can you imagine THAT cockpit! Grin
 

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Reply #6 - Aug 8th, 2003 at 10:16am

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Have we met?  LMAO

I was at the drive in with my girlfriend a few weeks back, and they played this little video that said there were once 4,000 drive in theaters in the US, now there are fewer than 400.  This got me thinking about purchasing one and bringing it back to life, so to speak.

I just happened to make the comment that after everyone left, I could hook up the PC to a decent projector, and fly F$ on the big screen. 

Too funny....

Of course, you'd have to be seated pretty close to it in order to get the best effect.  It might actually be too big.

 

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Reply #7 - Aug 8th, 2003 at 12:07pm

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Honest,I've given up on the idea, since I can't seem to paint the house I don't see how I'll ever paint a theater screen.
As for Mrs packercolinl if I can get away with pedals for $15 she's laughing------she paid for my last REAL flight! Grin
 

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Reply #8 - Aug 8th, 2003 at 2:00pm

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Glad it helps packercolinl    i was wondering if a full enclosed cockpit would be grounds for devorce    Grin 8)
 

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Reply #9 - Aug 8th, 2003 at 2:28pm

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Hey Page...it wasn't for a lot of other people.  lol

Do a Google on "Homebuilt Cockpits", you'll be amazed at some of these people.

Then check out sites like www.projectmagenta.com Grin Grin Grin
 

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Reply #10 - Aug 8th, 2003 at 2:55pm
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Not if it's a Two-seater!! Grin Grin

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Reply #11 - Aug 8th, 2003 at 3:06pm

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I like the way you think....I may just have to talk to the girlfriend tonight.  lol
 

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Reply #12 - Aug 8th, 2003 at 4:00pm

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Rush's to clear out basement........YIKES!!     Hyperion   i just loooked at those cockpits they made or are making ...The dedication they need for that and also  Roll Eyes the empty pocket after building it ...sort of puts the rudder thing i put up look kinda small Angry....wish i had the money to make one, i have the time and the tools..and an understanding wife Roll Eyes
 

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Reply #13 - Aug 8th, 2003 at 4:02pm

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Then for Whoevers sake look after her!!!  If you build a flight deck on top of everything else she's bound to get peeved!!!

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Reply #14 - Aug 8th, 2003 at 4:09pm

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Oh i do Smoke   i have to as she broke her little toe yesterday Angry    oh just realized if i use the basement will have tobe a seaplane cockpit Grin
 

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