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Oil Painting II (Read 274 times)
Aug 3
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, 2003 at 9:27am
Scorpiоn
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Thanks to those that replied last time, I'm not sure I thanked anyone. (shame on me!) This time, I have a question a bit more simple (specific, actually).
A - While persistent, I am inpatient. To give you an idea of how bad it is, I can't just sit in front of my PC while it boots, I have to do something else, even if it's aimlessly loitering around the house!
B - My ultimate target is to paint at
this
level.
This may be ambitious, but quite frankly, I believe I can be there in a couple more years in my graphite drawings. But I ask you, can you pull up a work of art just from memory that is graphite only? I doubt it. Mona Lisa? Starry Night? Even that god awful "abstract" art is all done in color. No I don't expect or want to paint timeless classics (but it would be nice), just stuff I'd be proud to hang on my wall. Now, to the questions (seeing as I've strayed off so much).
1) Is it possible for me to begin painting and only sacrifice a few years of backtracking?
2) What style of painting was the above painting done in? I'd think I'd like to pursue that one. (I heard acrylics, oils etc. being thrown around in the last post)
3) Are there fast drying paints (hour to a couple of hours at max) that will allow me to ever reach the quality level of the above art?
Basically, I'm willing to sacrifice what I'm accustomed to (especially finishing a drawing in one sitting) in order to "convert" to color, but not if it means I have to give up everything I've learned (start over). Thanks in advance.
The Devil's Advocate.
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Aug 3
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, 2003 at 4:25pm
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Alot of it is down to ability. Some people are just good artists. My Mum took up oils about a year before me and just did good pictures from day one. I've been at it now for about two years and, although my pictures are now loads better than when I started, they are not as good as stuff my Mum did from the start.
I've never painted with anything but oils so could not say if inks are any easier to use.
I paint loads of aircraft and would love to be able to do something like that in your link, but in truth, I never will be that good no matter how many years I do this.
From reading your posts it sounds like you have a tallent for art so I'm guessing that if you stick to this you will begin to turn out some very good work in time.
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Aug 3
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Well, I'm not really answering your questions in this post, but...
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This may be ambitious, but quite frankly, I believe I can be there in a couple more years in my graphite drawings. But I ask you, can you pull up a work of art just from memory that is graphite only? I doubt it. Mona Lisa? Starry Night? Even that god awful "abstract" art is all done in color. No I don't expect or want to paint timeless classics (but it would be nice), just stuff I'd be proud to hang on my wall.
What I do with some of my drawings is scan them onto the computer and "colorize" them in PhotoShop. When you print them, it comes out in a nice watercolor effect. It's not an oil paiting, but for me at least it's something I'm proud to display.
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I can't just sit in front of my PC while it boots, I have to do something else, even if it's aimlessly loitering around the house!
Sounds a lot like me.
lol
I don't use oil paint, so I can't answer your questions.
I can only say to keep at it and practice. Maybe you could find the email address of the artist and see if he'll be willing to give you tips?
&&FS Evolution&&&&DanielF
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Aug 4
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i might be able to find someone who can give you some advice with that, but i cant promise anything as i dont know when i will next speak to this person.
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Aug 4
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, 2003 at 11:08am
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This might sound pigheaded, but I've been drawing since I was in Kindergarden, and I'll be danged if I'm going to start taking lessons now. I just need a few starting pointers since I'm still pretty lost with painting.
The Devil's Advocate.
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Aug 4
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but as your discovering its not as easy as drawing with other things:) sometimes you do have to go back to the begining with these things.
like i said i might be able to get someone i know to give you a few pointers.
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Aug 5
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, 2003 at 4:41pm
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Thanks, but, like I said, my pigheaded pride dominates this issue. When I look back, I'd like to be able to say, "I painted that one with everything I learned, that's nobody's (nobodies?) work but mine." Although this presents a dilemma, will it be quite the same since I'm asking these questions? Should I just though it out and fiqure it out on my own? Haven't the money. Hmm...
Got it! Thanks Hawker, your answer was there the whole time, just didn't look for it!
Gotta tough it out, just as I always have; expirementation is the key... Craig, thanks for making me rethink my inquires! 8) Although #2 and 3 remain to be answered...
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Aug 5
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, 2003 at 4:46pm
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why dont you email the painter of this picture?? at very least to find out what he used to paint it
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Aug 5
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, 2003 at 5:57pm
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To try and help with 2 & 3, the picture of "Old Crow" is an oil painting. I've not see this picture before but I've seen many like it. Most, but not all, are done on a large canvas and I guess this helps get the high level of detail but takes more time and uses more paint.
Water colours and inks dry quite fast but oils, especially light colours take many days to dry. However, this can be of some help when blending shades and colours together.
I would suggest you take some advice from someone who does oil painting if only for tips on the correct type of brushes etc.
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Aug 5
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Go to the
http://www.cebudanderson.com/
homepage. The artist's email is available under the painting.
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Aug 5
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, 2003 at 6:15pm
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From what I understand of art, you will need a transplant to be able to do that kind of stuff.....even though lots and lots of practice will help, I have it on good authority that it takes a certain " eye " to do that , so the best way I can see it happening if you don't feel you have it, is to enter the operating room and come out of there as a totally different " sight "..........
OK OK, so its a groaner..........
Let me know when you paint one that good, even in your own opinion, cause, I'll step to the front of the line to see it............keep up the devotion as its the only way to get to Carnagie Hall...........Practice, Practice, Practice.................
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