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Reply #60 - Jul 29th, 2003 at 8:44pm

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Woody if you so much as point those upward mounted guns at me I will turn my ball turret around, and well you know the rest is history...
 

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Reply #61 - Jul 29th, 2003 at 9:04pm

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[cough]lanc has no ball turret[/cough]

Wink only on later versions. or version. fitted in place or at the rear of the H2S radome bubble aft of the bomb bay.
 

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Reply #62 - Jul 30th, 2003 at 3:47am

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And Mathias, will this Bf110 have upward firing machine guns to rake the bottom of the allied bombers? Please say yes please say yes etc.



Yes
BTW, it took Bomber Command more than 6 month to figure out what has killed their bombers after the appearance of the schraege Musik.
They believed these aircraft where lost due to flak, just got it when a few aircraft made it homw and the damage indicated that it can´t  be due to  flak.
The bombers where re-equipped with windows in the bottom so the crews could at least see what killed them.
 

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Reply #63 - Jul 30th, 2003 at 5:07am

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     This really must be the longest thread in the history of Forums. 
    
     Dan, the Lancaster looks great (very pretty for a big girl)!  What's the ETA on her release?  I can hardly wait to see it!  Are you going to make the 22,000-lb bomb that went along with her?  Wouldn't that be just the thing for the aircraft factory in Berlin?  11,000 pounds of Torpex would certainly make a dent.

     Mathias, ich haben alle von GC Bf110s die andere Nacht schließlich geladen, und ich liebe sie! Es ist wirklich ausgezeichnete Arbeit, und ein wunderbares Flugzeug. Ich habe sie in einen Wahlkampf, wo sie bewundernswert schon gestellt durchführen. Und es war eine große Freude zu sehen, daß der Bf110 in meinen Briten und Amerikaner Wahlkämpfe auch erscheint! Verzeihen Sie meinem Deutsch, Ich habe nur in einer Amerikanischen Sekundärschule drei Jahre gedauert. 

     As far as the Lanc against the 110, I'm going to have to put my money on the 110.  I took the Bf110 R4 (with the 37mm Flak) up against a formation of AVHistory's B-17s at 25,000 and I slaughtered four of them (climbing to high altitude and pouncing on top of them), though I was finally shot down by their hail of fire... and that B-17Molly is one durable bomber!  It's a day's work to bring down one of those things in the other fighters... even those equipped with 30mm cannons.  If you (Dan) create a realistic Damage Profile for her, I don't know if the poor Lanc can stand too many 37mm rounds.  Anyway, that's just my humble opinion.

       Great work, both of you.  I look forward to seeing what you produce in the future.

     Here's a great Avro Lancaster website I found: http://pjwhitfield.freeservers.com/

 

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Reply #64 - Jul 30th, 2003 at 7:59am

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mhm.. thanks for the site.

i'll update you all on the lanc as i go along.. but believe it or not they could take a fair bit of damage but, unlike the flying fortress; the lanc was underarmed... once pinned i think she's only got her manoeverability to get her away.. speed and rolls.. speeeed. 8)
 

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Reply #65 - Jul 30th, 2003 at 9:39am

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hmm, Dan, not to step in your six again,
but the Lanc was anything but well protected.
Infact, the Avro constructors stripped down anything what could add weight, the plane didn´t even have self-sealing tanks, and the wings where full of fuel.
The Luftwaffe nightfighters aimed for wings and engines,
it made a way to big boom when they aimed for the fuselage and it´s bombload.
Once the nightfighters had spotted the Lanc they homed in using their radar and the bomber was deadly hit before the crews even knew what had happend, mind you, in the dark.
There was even discussion wether the crews should use their defense armamanent at all, due to the risk of hitting friendly planes or even  the own plane.
Look at the Lanc top turret, it has this large frame around it, this is to keep a trigger-happy gunner away from hitting the own plane!
Their defense consisted in the main thing of the corkscrew manover. The bomber flew left/down - right/down - right/up -left/up, to confuse the radar on the nightfighter, mind you, we´re speaking of night missions.
I have a report where a Lancaster pilot played cat and mouse that way for two hours with a german nightfighter, but this was more the exception than the rule.
don´t get me wrong, this is by far no "mine-is-better-than-yours" thing.
You know I make a Lancaster myself, wouldn´t even do it If I´d dislike the bird or something:)
It´s just so that a hunter is a hunter and a hunt is a hunt. Wink
 

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Reply #66 - Jul 30th, 2003 at 1:26pm

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I'm glad the Bf110 will have those guns it will make my year after those lancs and Didiers Defiant. Tongue
 

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Reply #67 - Jul 30th, 2003 at 4:05pm

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any estimate of when it will be done?
 
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Reply #68 - Jul 30th, 2003 at 4:28pm

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lol well then mat.... at least she was one of a kind!

lol... i bet you smother me on that  Roll Eyes

anyhoo, still up for the friendly battle?
 

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Reply #69 - Jul 30th, 2003 at 4:51pm

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[quote author=Dan, TLUK link=board=cfs3;num=1058995368;start=60#68 date=07/30/03 at 16:28:04]lol well then mat.... at least she was one of a kind!quote]

She shure was, Dan!
and of course we´ll see us in the skies:)

BTW, how´s the deal with the 1% guys comming along?
 

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Reply #70 - Jul 30th, 2003 at 5:16pm

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lol neat, you're on then. and at least we agree on something  Wink

and, im on hold with the 1% boys.
 

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Reply #71 - Aug 2nd, 2003 at 2:57am

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Dan....

Any updates on this beauty?  Or have the current Avhistory troubles slowed down the process?  If you would like, I can beta test for you.  Just drop me a line in the ol' PM box.

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Reply #72 - Aug 2nd, 2003 at 4:16am

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I'm glad the Bf110 will have those guns it will make my year after those lancs and Didiers Defiant. Tongue


Patrick isn't going to be making any more planes for a while, Woody...look back a page or two.
 
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Reply #73 - Aug 2nd, 2003 at 1:35pm

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Any updates on this beauty?  Or have the current Avhistory troubles slowed down the process?  If you would like, I can beta test for you.  Just drop me a line in the ol' PM box.

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Reply #74 - Aug 3rd, 2003 at 5:31pm

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Patrick isn't going to be making any more planes for a while, Woody...look back a page or two.


Your kidding? Damn. I really was looking forward to that Defiant...
 

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