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Question: Would you be interested in participating

Yes, As a pilot    
  28 (63.6%)
Yes, As an observer    
  15 (34.1%)
No    
  1 (2.3%)




Total votes: 44
« Created by: EirePlane on: Jul 23rd, 2003 at 12:34pm »

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Reply #60 - Jul 25th, 2003 at 11:14am

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I also agree that we should do it on VATSIM. Perhaps they'd be willing to "shut down" a particular airport in order to accomodate the show.

It's not likely that they would close down the airport just for us, after all, Heathrow is one of the worlds busiest airports and shutting it down could cause a lot of confusion. Plus, to use vatsim you need squawk Box. As far as I know it generates AI traffic a well so mabye we are better off using FS Host
 
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Reply #61 - Jul 25th, 2003 at 11:29am

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But is Heathrow a requirement?  There are lots of runways available that are long enough.  BGR is an example...it's an alternate for NASA.
 
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Reply #62 - Jul 25th, 2003 at 11:42am

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Heathrow is not a Requirement but the show was originally at Norholt AB and Heathrow was the largest airport nearby. If we wanted an Airport with a lot of runways we would have picked O'Hare
 
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Reply #63 - Jul 25th, 2003 at 12:09pm

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Hmm, I think FSHost is the way to go with this.
With the warbirds I'm working with a couple of people on this. ATI is away on holiday this week (sailing in Holland, strange chap!), but I'm doing some Spitfire workups with Hawker Tempest, and I'll also be doing some formation biplane work with Fozzer this evening.
I'll let you know how things are coming along.
I think it best if to avoid err close encounters we only have one display airborne at a time.... and like Mitchel said one runway at Heathrow for take-offs, and one for landings. It'll keep things simple.
As for a date, this is going to take a fair bit of work to build up too... We're looking realistically at probably a minimum of a month from now.

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Reply #64 - Jul 25th, 2003 at 1:16pm

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I, personally, would seriously think twice of holding this event on VATSIM, apart from some other issues that are being discussed alse where in the SimV's forums (Easy Hyperion, just hear me out  Wink) you have the eternal lag issue.  You would not be able to enjoy a solid display as the aircraft would be jumping around like a demented Flea on Speed.  It would also add to your planning, as you would have to submit all kinds of details to VATSIM explaining what the layout of the show will be etc so they could inform all their controllers and what not...
VATSIM would be good if you were to, as in the case of the Manston Airshow,  hold a fly-in on the Friday or Saturday (If the Show was on a Sunday) whereby all the show participants fly in to the venue almost together...  
With regards to VATSIM closing an Airport...erm... doubt it!  Maybe a smaller field but never somewhere like Heathrow!
If you really want a good default venue that would not be difficult on framrates then why not Bruntingthorpe in Leicester, United Kingdom?  Good long runway, in the middle of now where, your not going to get in anyones way (Incase you hold a fly-in or the actual show on VATSIM) and it wont eat anyones frame rates as there are no major scenery blocks nearby...  Just a thought...  

P.S.  or what about Fairford?
 
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Reply #65 - Jul 25th, 2003 at 1:20pm

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the new list is up and running on http://fsairshow.tripod.com
 
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Reply #66 - Jul 25th, 2003 at 1:59pm

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FSHost is going to make things a lot smoother.On the other hand,if we want to use VATSIM,then we can use FAJS (Johannesburg International,South Africa).I'm probably the only regular controller down here so it won't be an issue to close the airspace.
 
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Reply #67 - Jul 25th, 2003 at 3:16pm

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I could be sure someone said earlier about concept AC. I have found a very nice plane still in development and could ask the designer if he wants to release it at the show it's at http://hometown.aol.de/_ht_a/docmoriarty3/fs2002/en/index.html
 
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Reply #68 - Jul 25th, 2003 at 4:15pm

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No, I'm not at all suggesting that we MUST have it on the VATSIM network.  I'm just suggesting that because it's really the only one that I use.  If you guys think FSHost will work best, I'm saying go for it! 


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If we wanted an Airport with a lot of runways we would have picked O'Hare


I wasn't suggesting a lot of runways, I was saying that there are lots of them in the world that are quite long, and could very easily accomodate heavies and other long roll types.

I agree though, that only one aircraft or team should be airborne at a time.  That will cut down on accidents tremendously.  Especially the way some of us (no names mentioned) fly.  lol
 
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Reply #69 - Jul 25th, 2003 at 4:17pm

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Another thought I had would be to invite a representative from the different VA's to have one of their aircraft on static display.  This would be a great promotion of the VA industry and also a great recruiting strategy. Wink



YAY!  I'm a resident now.  Ozzy, where should I put my bags?  lol

And Pete...I don't like where you've got the sofa...that's gonna have to go.  haha
 
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Reply #70 - Jul 25th, 2003 at 4:21pm

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Nice idea Scott, but we've already established that this will eat frame rates quite badly. Better that the viewers have a front page to go through to link up and it has VA/sponsors logos on it.

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Reply #71 - Jul 25th, 2003 at 4:26pm

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I like your idea better.  lol

Would it be at all possible for us to score some scenery designers who could make some special airshow type scenery?  Just little tents, audiences, seating, etc?  Might be a good plug for them too.  (And it would look cool.)  I don't know anything about this, so I'm not sure how to do it or how it would affect framerates.  (Could even do some VA banners and such...)
 
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Reply #72 - Jul 25th, 2003 at 6:53pm

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I was just wondering if the a/c that are listed on EirePlane's site will be the only ones allowed.  I know that there is a F-35 JSF amoung others that would be interesting to see here.
 
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Reply #73 - Jul 25th, 2003 at 7:58pm

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If you want any artwork done, Banners for scenery etc I would glady offer my services.  I even have a few Scenery designers but I think they are all flooded at the mo... Might be able to get some custom API's built for you.

If you guys want a Website doing I would gladly build one and even be willing to host it for you...  Just gimme a call.... I am not that bad honest... Grin

Oh BTW... If I dare say this...  Lips Sealed  If you would like the Virtual Red Arrows they are available in two weeks time... 

Just leave a post here if are interested and we can get into contact via MSN or something....
 
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Reply #74 - Jul 25th, 2003 at 8:04pm

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Well, it's not my call, I'm merely (and sadly) a follower in this venture.  But it's got my vote!   Wink
 
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