Thanks Roger. Good luck with your system. I downloaded the Panel. The sound & my investigation will have to wait till tomorrow as I'm about ready for bed.

Foz. Type " gozilla spyware " in Google & see what shows up. http://www.safersite.com/PestInfo/db/g/gozilla.asp

I have a trick for the exe installers, I made a
dumbie file FS2002-1,With all the folders inside,
named just like FS2002, but empty,when I get
a exe installer, I rename the good FS to FS2002-2
and the dumbie to FS2002, then install and go see
whats where and if I can't get enough to do a install
myself I trash the stuff and rename the files and go
looking for a better plane!!!

Roger, I'm glad i'm not the only one who feels this way!

I can't stand auto installers. Some will allow you to choose your own destination, which I'll always pick a temp folder somewhere. Some will NOT give you an option . For this I 'hide' my FS2002 folder, create a dummy fs2002 folder and place a copy of the fs2002.exe file in it, which has fooled every last one of 'em 

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There were a few aircraft released for FS2002 a couple years ago which used auto installers, and people were actually reporting viruses being installed by them

Well I've read enough. I prefer to manually install and even if someone comes up with a fix that thing is for the bin. I can't afford that sort of stuff-up.

Well, just to try to tie things up a bit.

I thought that the problem was due to the panel - probably a gauge - so after having spent until 1.30am last night getting my system back I decided to give it a go again but using only my Connie panel this time.

Believe it or not, but on my normal test flight ( you've guessed - a takeoff and full IGS approach on Kai Tak 13 that takes about 25 minutes) it crashed my display driver again and I had to reinstall it (GeForce 3 Ti 200 using latest NVidia 44.03 drivers issued May 2003, DirectX 9)

So I flew the test again, no change same panel but in the Connie this time. NO PROBLEM.

IMHO THERE IS DEFINITELY A PROBLEM WITH THIS AIRCRAFT.

Interesting that even (!) Doug had a problem with FS2002 hanging on shutdown indicating that something probably affected his PC. Maybe the difference in our experiences was due to different O/S, different display, different DirectX, I don't know.

To come back to autoinstallers. Yes, in theory all they do is an autoextract BUT every install on each PC is different so a one-size-fits-all install is totally inappropriate in my view. Also, when as in this case there are problems I like to know what's gone onto my PC and where so I KNOW all the offending material has been removed when I take it off.

In my case what concerns me is that this problem is affecting my display drivers, which are system stuff so obviously this plane contains something a bit dangerous that extends beyond FS2002.

Do you need any more reasons why we should outlaw these things?

The guys who designed this plane have done themselves a great disservice by trying to be over-clever in my view. The model looks good and flies well and the sound is great.

But I've got too many questionmarks over it that are compounded by the autoinstall process.

It's now gonna be removed from my PC but quick and I only hope that the underlying problem is nothing to do with the original gauges that were replaced because those I have to keep.

Wise words as usual from Doug above, especially the last two paragraphs.

Just a suggestion if you hate autoinstallers - drop the designer(s) an email every time you come across one. Maybe they'd like to know......

Roger

I am in trouble!
All my newer uploads to EirePlane are clickteam auto installers. If so many people hate them I will have to take them down, If I take them down then Newbies complain that they don't know how to install the aircraft. All my planes only carry the basic files and were originally self installed by myself then repainted and made into the .exe. Do you think that this is a problem.