Oy yes its on this weekend on BBC1 so no goddam adverts yes yes yes.

Video recorder at the ready.

I love this film. I know lots of other people hate it and think its boring but I think its great and it creates tension very well. Its not to one sided either. It sports ship to ship action some great depth charge scenes and some gun action where they raid the german submarine.

Anyone in england who either likes or hasn't seen this film its on Saturday BBC1 at 2015 hours

both Das boot and Hunt for red october are better storywise, but the public wants just fancy explosions and they are served

I prefer the WW2 theatre. The storyline is wrong but most of them are.

I think that out of all the sub films I've sen this is my favourite.

I think, and I stress think, that Hunt for Red October is a fictionalised "What If?" based on the events superbly dramatised in the film K 19 Widow Maker.

I am usually wrong in these things.

Will

U571 is based on a true life event during WWII. Click me--> http://www.lawbuzz.com/tyranny/u571/u571.htm

The only reason it was fictionalised is that holywood doesn't think americans will pay to see films in which americans are not heroes or in lead roles.  It's a pity really.

The origional script for "Memphis Belle" was about the first RAF crew (possibly RCAF) that finished their forty mission tour of duty but again holywood wouldn't back it and at that time the British film idustry didn't exist.  The only real problem is that people who don't look into the real history of the world grow up with a false immpression of reality.

Will

Well, I don't know about the reality of it, but movies pretty much do a good job of screwing Clancy's novels up pretty good.  Hunt for Red October was a fantastic book and after reading it, I can barely even watch the movie (Sean Connery as a Russian with a Scottish accent didn't help).  Patriot Games and The Sum of all Fears also are equally screwed up.  But as was stated in a recent posting, his books are going downhill too. 

Why do all these authors think they have to have the same characters in every book?  I mean, Jack Ryan has got to be about 90 now.   It doesn't have to always be a sequel.  In fact it might have helped some to NOT be a sequel...

I've been looking for 'Das Boot', & 'Battle of Britain', but no stores here sell them

I guess i'll have to buy them over Amazon.

But what's the difference between a director's cut version and a 'normal' version???

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In the case of Das Boot the directors cut is the restored version.

The theatrical release is about 3 hours long, but the tv series version lasts for 5 hours

Das Boot is the second best [movie] only to Saving Private Ryan because:

• It tells the story from the side most people don't want you to see.
• No phony accents , hard to have a German accent when you're speaking German.
• As far as I can tell, historically correct.
• Not dramatised in any way.  Even Battle of Britain had a bit of a hard to follow storyline twisted in.  Although nowhere near as bad a Pearl Harbor!
• You feel for the characters.  You really end up hating the (I think) Hurricanes at that certain point and event in the movie (Don't want to give it away!)  Only other movie that made me 'connect' so much with the characters was Black Hawk Down.

Andrew. The Battle of Britain film you want was first released in 1969 starring Michael Caine & Trevor Howard. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/6301965817/qid=1058123598/sr=2-2/ref=sr_2...

I would suggest you go for the original subtitled version of Das Boot. This makes watching it a tad more difficult but the apparently badly dubbed version would completely spoil it for me.

I couldn't be bothered to watch U-571. After Woody's & Tempest's comments I knew I would hate it.  

grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr . I forgot how gung-ho U-571 was.
They managed to operate a german sub, and sink another german underwater and defeat a destroyer. The bit that really got me was when they shot the radio tower even though none of them were gunners, yet the 4 (?) turrets on the destroyer failed to hit a sub!

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I'm not completely sure which version is which at Amazon, but is this it?

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0767802470/qid=1058164318/sr=8-2/r...

It's in DVD format, it's run time is 209 minutes, and features German & English audiotracks, plus English subtitles. I guess this means you can listen to it in German, but read the English text on screen?

Is this what you mean?

i personally like U571. . .and my brother use to go to school with Dino DeLaurentis's older daughter. She is in the movie as the captin's daughter. . .the one with the speaking role

Well, it's ok I guess if you don't mind little inconsistencies like Americans taking credit for something the British did...

I think what people like me object to is the way "Hollywood" changes history to suit the audience. U-571 is pure fiction but I'm sure the majority of Joe Public will believe it's based on fact. I have the same problem with so many of these "doc-dramas" we see on TV.

PS. I just found this.
http://www.ezymovie.com/English_War_6_CaptureEnigma.htm
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What p***es me off about this is just what Hagar said. Most people who see this will think this is the truth. As WW2 gets further away and the pople who served become fewer and fewer all we have left to tell the truth is what is left behind. Books and films.
I consider this crap a slur against the good, brave men who carried out the real acts of heroism and gave us all our freedom. Sadly that freedom also allows people to come up with this tripe and pass it off as real.