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Jul 3rd, 2003 at 1:20pm

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I am looking for an Amphibious plane that is pretty fast (can go almost 300 knots) if possible. My friend and I love to lake hop but the problem is, we are impatient and the current Amphibious planes I have found are oftly slow.

Can anybody tell me where one might be??? thank you
 
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Reply #1 - Jul 3rd, 2003 at 7:15pm

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Have you tried looking for a Martin Seamaster - A four jet seaplane ? I've gotten a couple different copies from different sites on the internet.
 
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Reply #2 - Jul 3rd, 2003 at 7:59pm

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A fast amphibious jet would be the Beriev Be-200.  The only problem is that I have jet to see one for FS.  It is an interesting plane.

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Reply #3 - Jul 4th, 2003 at 5:47am

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Have you tried looking for a Martin Seamaster - A four jet seaplane ? I've gotten a couple different copies from different sites on the internet.


I'm very interested, what sites can you get it at? I searched here and found nothing with Seamaster

I appreciate it

I'm going to download that Beriev, thanks Daylightla!!
 
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Reply #4 - Jul 4th, 2003 at 5:16pm

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The ones I have were FS98 versions. Without digging through my archieves I'd say I got them from Flightsim.com. I just did a file search over there and the only thing that came up was a panel and a FS5 version.
 
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Reply #5 - Jul 4th, 2003 at 7:18pm

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a simple search often helps ...

here's what 'amphibious jet' threw up

http://www.simviation.com/fs2002misc9.htm
http://www.simviation.com/fs2002jets76.htm
 
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Reply #6 - Jul 4th, 2003 at 7:26pm

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If you nead a new idea, look in an old book.....
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Reply #7 - Jul 5th, 2003 at 2:40am

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Thanks. You've saved me the effort as I was contemplating a fast amphib. for Pacific use Smiley
 
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Reply #8 - Jul 7th, 2003 at 6:57am

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Don't know whether you know, but one of the British aero companies produced an amphibious pure jet interceptor just after the war.  I think it was either Westland or Saunders-Roe - I'm not sure.

It was sub-sonic, very ugly and flew as a prototype but wasn't proceeded with as there was no requirement for the little monster.

If you're interested, I'll trawl through my library and find details.

All the best,
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Reply #9 - Jul 7th, 2003 at 8:17am

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Saunders-Roe (SARO) SR.A/1  of 1947.  Three prototypes built.



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Don't know whether you know, but one of the British aero companies produced an amphibious pure jet interceptor just after the war.  I think it was either Westland or Saunders-Roe - I'm not sure.

It was sub-sonic, very ugly and flew as a prototype but wasn't proceeded with as there was no requirement for the little monster.

If you're interested, I'll trawl through my library and find details.

All the best,
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Cornwall, UK - (Not part of England)

 
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Reply #10 - Jul 7th, 2003 at 9:52am

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Smiley  Thanks, saves me looking:

Ken Attwood.
 
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Reply #11 - Jul 8th, 2003 at 6:07pm

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Oh please oh please someone make that be-200
 
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Reply #12 - Jul 8th, 2003 at 9:41pm

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The Be-200 is a great plane.  I would love for a designer to take a try at it.  Smiley

Airliners has some great pictures of it.

http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?aircraft_genericsearch=Beriev%20Be-...
 
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Reply #13 - Jul 9th, 2003 at 5:37am

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That is rather interesting,wouldn't mind one of those myself.
 
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Reply #14 - Jul 12th, 2003 at 11:39am

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I hope that some designer will take up this project.  Smiley
 
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Reply #15 - Jul 14th, 2003 at 9:30am

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Tha animation of the landing gear is a pain in the posterior ... why couldn't Beriev just have made it a flying boat?


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Reply #16 - Jul 14th, 2003 at 3:26pm

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Just curriosity, why is the animation so tough?
 
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Reply #17 - Jul 14th, 2003 at 5:15pm

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Does that mean you are making one?
 
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Reply #18 - Jul 14th, 2003 at 5:47pm

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ON certain Russian planes - such as the Beriev and some Antonov turboprops, my mechanically challenged mind tries to figure out how that gear rotates with that extra lever from mid-point to the front of the nacelle....



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Just curriosity, why is the animation so tough?

 
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Reply #19 - Jul 15th, 2003 at 8:29am

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Maybe these pictures can help.

Right after T/O
http://www.aerospace-technology.com/projects/beriev_be-200/images/Be200_1.jpg

Airbourne with gear starting transition
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A bad picture for this, but look just aft of the wing and you can see the main gear retracting.
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/238754/M/
 
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Reply #20 - Jul 15th, 2003 at 9:09am

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Thanks for the photos - it gives me a better idea .... (I wish Beriev hadn't spoken to Antonov)
 
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Reply #21 - Jul 16th, 2003 at 11:53am

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Does this mean that you are concidering making it?  Also Beriev did concider making it a flying boat.  Then they decided this plane had more potential than just a sea partol craft.  They are making it as a pax plane, ambulance, SAR, and firefighter.  It is an intersting platform for many uses.
 
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Reply #22 - Jul 16th, 2003 at 1:25pm

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I'm fiddlling with a "USMSB"* type model ....  nothing fancy, a reasonable visual shape, doubtful flight dynamics, something for the tinkerer to play with.

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Does this mean that you are concidering making it?  Also Beriev did concider making it a flying boat.  Then they decided this plane had more potential than just a sea partol craft.  They are making it as a pax plane, ambulance, SAR, and firefighter.  It is an intersting platform for many uses.

 
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Reply #23 - Jul 16th, 2003 at 2:18pm

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Can you post it/e-mail it to me please.  I would love to work with the dynamics and paint.  I am not a good modeler though.
 
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Reply #24 - Jul 16th, 2003 at 2:47pm

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Let me get some (very) basic landing gear and texture templates....

I've yet to start cutting out control surfaces.

Do you work with the source file (FSDS2.23) or the model itself?



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Can you post it/e-mail it to me please.  I would love to work with the dynamics and paint.  I am not a good modeler though.

 
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Reply #25 - Jul 16th, 2003 at 3:12pm

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The model would be easier for me to work with.  I am just begining to work with dynamics and paint, so I just wanted a project to play with.  Thank you very much.  Smiley
 
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Reply #26 - Jul 20th, 2003 at 1:39am

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Grin

  Felix/FFDS,

  Clould you do a Stargate Death Glider after you fininsh
  that one please. Or tell me where i can find one?
 
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Reply #27 - Jul 20th, 2003 at 2:15am

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Okay, here's what I've got:

An amphibious corporate jet designed by Brian Gladden.  It is a fictitious a/c, but deffinitely fun to fly.  I believe I got it here, but I don't know exactly.  Search for the designer name.
 
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Reply #28 - Jul 20th, 2003 at 9:41am

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#1 - I'm not into "Fantasy/Space Ships", sorry..

#2 - I don't even know what one is!


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 Clould you do a Stargate Death Glider after you fininsh
 that one please. Or tell me where i can find one?
 
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Reply #29 - Jul 20th, 2003 at 5:59pm

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Felix!  The Death Glider is the ship that flies around in the movie Stargate, chasing all those Abu Dabi types through the desert.

Since Felix is uninterested in making fantasy or space ships, is there someone out there who is?

BTW, found that Amphibious Corporate Jet on flightsim.com.  A really nice .8 Mach at 50,000 ft.
 
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Reply #30 - Jul 23rd, 2003 at 4:10pm

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Felix, I just got FSDS.  Could you please send me the file.  I would like my first project to at least have somewhere to start. 

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Reply #31 - Aug 25th, 2003 at 4:50pm

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Felix, I was wondering if I could have what ever you started on the Be-200.  I would like to take a try at it.

Thanks,
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Reply #32 - Aug 26th, 2003 at 4:54am

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Felix!  The Death Glider is the ship that flies around in the movie Stargate, chasing all those Abu Dabi types through the desert.

Since Felix is uninterested in making fantasy or space ships, is there someone out there who is?

BTW, found that Amphibious Corporate Jet on flightsim.com.  A really nice .8 Mach at 50,000 ft.

That Death Glider
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finally evolved into this
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Some of the guys who made Stargate (the movie) later did Independence Day

Especially the flight dynamics of those Death Gliders (and some of the fighting tactics) are the same as the ID-4 alien interceptors.
 
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