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Jun 29th, 2003 at 5:39pm

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Ok guys, I'm currently planning on updating my computer and was wondering what OS I should get for it-Win98 or WinME.  I currently have WinME but since it is a version from Dell I'll have to buy another copy anyway.  I have found that my version of ME has had a lot of error issues and have heard that 98 is a lot more stable.  Also, I don't like WinXP so I have to decided if I would rather have ME or 98.  What do you guys think is better?
 
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Reply #1 - Jun 29th, 2003 at 5:59pm

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Hi Richie... Grin...!
There are others on the Forum who would happily shoot Win '98 down in flames..
But...
I have had Win '98 SE, (Second Edition), installed since it first came out, (after Win'95).
I find it simple and un-complicated, and only contains exactly what I actually require from it.
It always seems completely stable to me, although others often don't agree... Roll Eyes...!
If you don't like Win XP, (I personally am not too fussed on it, as a games player), then I would go for Windows '98 SE.... Wink...!
It makes a good "Games" System!
Up-grades are still available from Microsoft.

Cheers mate... Grin...!
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Reply #2 - Jun 29th, 2003 at 6:03pm

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I happily run W98SE, but here's an "independent" review.  http://www.btinternet.com/~cerrig/
 
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Reply #3 - Jun 29th, 2003 at 6:09pm

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i personally run XP but have also tried 98 and it worked fine for me, alot of people swear by it and it still stands the tests of time now.

side note off topic. Cool bike in your signature fozzer, i own a jacket just like that to. although hardly get to wear it these days
 
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Reply #4 - Jun 29th, 2003 at 6:12pm

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Hi Webb.... Grin...!
Excellent read.
I think I'll stick to my lubbly-jubbly Windows '98 SE*... Grin...!
LOL...LOL...LOL...!

Cheers mate... Grin...!
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*I've got quite attached to it after all these years... 8)...!
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Reply #5 - Jun 29th, 2003 at 6:13pm

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I run Me. But I suppose it comes down to what you are used to.
I have 98 at the office and it seems a bit foreign to me. Also, I think Me has some features that (for some reason) aren't on the 98 that I use at work.

I was downloading Windows Updates the other day and noticed that they mentioned something like "Windows 98 is being reclassified to 'some kind of Obsolescence' - Don't recall the exact words but it seemed to me to mean that Updates and new Security stuff won't be as big a priority as for the later versions.

Something to think about anyway.

(If you go into Updates for Outlook express 6 - you'll see what I'm talking about - that's where I saw the message about 98.
 

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Reply #6 - Jun 29th, 2003 at 6:24pm

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....side note off topic. Cool bike in your signature fozzer, I own a jacket just like that to. although hardly get to wear it these days


Hi Craig... Grin..!
...Then you have got to get yourself a nice super-bike to go with your nice leather jacket... Wink...!
Problem solved... Grin...!
...Win '98 SE is almost as much fun as a Honda... Grin...!
LOL...LOL...LOL...!

Cheers Craig...
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Reply #7 - Jun 29th, 2003 at 6:38pm

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...actually...
I could never figure out the difference between Windows Millenium and Windows 2000....
It seems the same flippin' year to me... ???...!
LOL...!
...I have heard that one of them is completely naff...?

Cheers... Grin...!
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Reply #8 - Jun 29th, 2003 at 6:38pm

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Well,if you insist on one of those 2 OS's then go for Win 98.Win ME is,in my opinion,the biggest piece of rubbish around-all they did was pretty much sell the beta of XP.lol.If you don't mind my asking,why don't you like XP?
 
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Reply #9 - Jun 29th, 2003 at 6:48pm

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....If you don't mind my asking,why don't you like XP?


Hi Lurch... Grin...!
If you are anything like me you can often blag an old free-bee copy of Win '98 SE off of one of your mates... 8)...!
Whereas...
A boxed version of Windows XP Home Edition will cost you an arm and a flippin' leg... Cry...!
LOL...LOL...LOL...!

Cheers mate...
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Reply #10 - Jun 29th, 2003 at 6:55pm

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A boxed version of Windows XP Home Edition will cost you an arm and a flippin' leg... Cry...!


LOL,I know what you mean,you think it costs you an arm & a leg-the boxed version here in South Africa set me back R3800. Shocked and FS2002 cost R999 Shocked(yes I know,I'm crazy to buy them.lol)
 
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Reply #11 - Jun 29th, 2003 at 7:32pm

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I personally use ME as I cannot get XP to run in an even vaguely stable manner on my machine.  I love the features of XP but I got fed up with re-installing all of my software every three days.  I think it's horses for courses and provided my flight sims and word processing software is happy, I'm happy.

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Reply #12 - Jun 29th, 2003 at 8:22pm

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The main reason why I don't like XP is that it has some compatibility issues with older games which I like and-to be honest, I'm not a big fan of how colorful it is; I like the more plain OS's.  Also, it's very expensive.

As Fozzer has already pointed out, Win98 is easy to get a free copy of from a friend (I have this ability) but I a,m used to WinME.  I don't know, I honestly think I like ME the best-but the question is do I want to buy a copy of it.  On that, does anyone know how much ME costs now?
 
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Reply #13 - Jun 30th, 2003 at 6:06pm

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I use ME & have few problems with it. However, given the choice I would stick with Win98 SE. Me is is basically an updated version of Win98 anyway. I don't remember much difference in the features apart from the colour of the desktop.  Roll Eyes
 

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Reply #14 - Jun 30th, 2003 at 6:40pm

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What do you guys mean Windows XP is too expensive. I paid $150CND for the Home edition. You guys were ripped off.
I don't think you can get Windows 98 or ME anymore in North America unless you get it second hand. XP is a far superior operating system than both 98se and ME.

Lurch, I'm really shocked at what you paid. I did the conversions (1 Canadian Dollar = 5.55Rand). That's almost $700 for XP!!  Shocked I'd be demanding my money back. And $180 for Flight Sim! I only paid $100 for the Pro edition. I'd be buying my software from American or Canadian web stores from now on if I were you.
 

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Reply #15 - Jun 30th, 2003 at 6:59pm

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98 SE happily used here............... 8)
 

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Reply #16 - Jun 30th, 2003 at 7:02pm

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The cheapest I see here is $161.50. http://reviews.cnet.com/Microsoft_Windows_XP___Home_Edition/4014-3513_7-6534881....
Make that £161.50 in the UK, although the exchange rate is currently 1.00 United Kingdom Pounds  = 1.65540 USD. Yes, we know all too well how we get ripped off but there ain't nothing we can do about it. If we order from a US site we get charged import duty by good old HM Customs.

The XP update might be a lot cheaper but after seeing all the problems posted by people who went this route I wouldn't recommend it.  Roll Eyes
 

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Reply #17 - Jun 30th, 2003 at 7:41pm

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Lurch, I'm really shocked at what you paid. I did the conversions (1 Canadian Dollar = 5.55Rand). That's almost $700 for XP!!  Shocked I'd be demanding my money back. And $180 for Flight Sim! I only paid $100 for the Pro edition. I'd be buying my software from American or Canadian web stores from now on if I were you.  

I've looked into the whole online thing,and the import duties on software is so sky high (no pun intended.lol) that in the long run it works out more expensive.Plus,if I have to send it back its at my cost.
 
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Reply #18 - Jun 30th, 2003 at 7:44pm

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You can purchase a full version of WinXP Pro for only $139 @ http://www.directron.com/winxppro.html

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http://www.infotechnow.com/shopping/shopexd.asp?id=492

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Reply #19 - Jun 30th, 2003 at 8:00pm

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I picked up my copy at a small computer store. It wasn't in a box but it was a legal copy. I don't care. Anyway, you guys in South Africa are getting screwed over when it comes to software. And I though Canadian import taxes were high.
 

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It wasn't in a box but it was a legal copy.


It was probably an OEM version
 
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Reply #21 - Jun 30th, 2003 at 8:07pm

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you guys in South Africa are getting screwed over when it comes to software. And I though Canadian import taxes were high.

Yeah we know we're getting screwed over,but there isn't anything we can do about it.lol
 
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Reply #22 - Jun 30th, 2003 at 11:44pm

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It was probably an OEM version


I run Me becauase that's what came with the 'Package' that the Mrs (foolishly) wasted heaps of money on.
I must say, though, that as far as software is concerned we did pretty well.
We got the Me OS, MS Works, Word, Money, Encarta, Publisher, Frontpage, Outlook Xpress, (parts of) Office 2000, IMS shell, McAfee Anti-Virus and other stuff.
As I already had Office 97, I was able to install the missing parts to the Office 2000 and now have a complete Office program (although some parts are '97 model).
I think all that software (which we are both in a position to use all quite often) is worth many 100's of monies.
I think we did OK in that regard, anyway.

With ME, also we've never had an ouce of trouble installing or running any kind of program.

So, that's why I like what I've got - apart from the fact that it's all familiar to me, and I feel at home with it.  Grin Grin Wink
 

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I think it depends on your system. I've seen computers that ran WinME perfectly, and others not so great Wink

I didn't have the best of luck with Win2000 Pro on my machine, but I have a friend who has never had a major problem with it
 
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I think it depends on your system. I've seen computers that ran WinME perfectly, and others not so great Wink

I didn't have the best of luck with Win2000 Pro on my machine, but I have a friend who has never had a major problem with it

Maybe not your system so much as how whatever OS you choose is installed & set up from the start. This is the reason I leave that side of it to the pros. Then if anything goes wrong or doesn't work as advertised it goes straight back until I'm satisfied.  Wink
 

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FOZZER, long time no talk, still playin' that strat? Windows 2000 is a network operating system (a subject I am current studying in a university for my MCSE)and has two types "Professional" and server the professional is a client, but can also be a stand alone OS. Win ME is based on win98, it is a stand alone OS, but it has lots of problems -- It works well when it is pre installed but it can be a pain in the *** if you try it as an upgrade -- I like xp the best so far but still have another laptop with Win ME (some games won,t run on XP but will still work with ME)
 
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Reply #26 - Jul 2nd, 2003 at 7:14am

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Win ME is based on win98, it is a stand alone OS, but it has lots of problems -- It works well when it is pre installed but it can be a pain in the *** if you try it as an upgrade.


That must be why mine works fine. It came as original software with the Compaq package.
The program isn't even on a 'Windows' CD, it's on a Compaq System restore CD.  Grin Wink
 

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That must be why mine works fine. It came as original software with the Compaq package.
The program isn't even on a 'Windows' CD, it's on a Compaq System restore CD.  Grin Wink


I have the same sort of deal from "Tiny".  I have few problems with ME but cannot persuade XP to run at all.

Funny old world innit?

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That must be why mine works fine. It came as original software with the Compaq package.
The program isn't even on a 'Windows' CD, it's on a Compaq System restore CD.  Grin Wink

I suspect this is the cause of most of these problems. Proprietary computers like Compaq & Tiny often use their own versions of hardware. The hardware drivers posted on the individual hardware manufacturers' sites might not be compatible. You should always get these from the computer manufacturer's site. From what you're saying Brensec, this can also apply to pre-installed software like the OS itself. This could explain why the usual M$ Windows updates won't work properly - especially if you try to update from Win9xHagar to XP.  Roll Eyes
 

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Maybe not your system so much as how whatever OS you choose is installed & set up from the start.


that too Wink
 
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FOZZER, long time no talk, still playin' that strat? Windows 2000 is a network operating system (a subject I am current studying in a university for my MCSE)and has two types "Professional" and server the professional is a client, but can also be a stand alone OS. Win ME is based on win98, it is a stand alone OS, but it has lots of problems -- It works well when it is pre installed but it can be a pain in the *** if you try it as an upgrade -- I like xp the best so far but still have another laptop with Win ME (some games won,t run on XP but will still work with ME)


Hi Lew... Grin...!
Nice to see you again... Grin...!
(I haven't found anyone to replace you for info on the 'Frisco area...).... Cry...!
LOL...!

Many thanks for explaining the difference between Windows 2000 and Windows Millenium... Grin...!

...and I'm still mimicking Henrix on the old 'Strat... Wink...!

Cheers mate... Grin...!
Best wishes.
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