Simviation Forum - (NEW!!!) Ju-87 Stuka

Jun 28^th, 2003 at 1:47pm

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Here are some shots of the new Ju-87 G-force and I have been working on I hope you like them... Grin

please tell us what you think. Wink

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Reply #1 - Jun 28^th, 2003 at 2:01pm

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GIMME GIMME GIMME!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Reply #2 - Jun 28^th, 2003 at 2:46pm

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very nice textures.

good work

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Reply #3 - Jun 28^th, 2003 at 4:48pm

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Looking fantastic Grin

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Reply #4 - Jun 28^th, 2003 at 5:32pm

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Very nice. I must get that! When is it going to be ready?

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Reply #5 - Jun 28^th, 2003 at 9:15pm

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This is coming along well guys, can't wait for the release and please don't rush it Wink

I saw the original postings for this a few weeks back but can't remember if it is Gmax or FSDS. I'm hoping it's the former so it can easily be transfered into FS2K4.

Oh and have you added the "scream"? Grin

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Reply #6 - Jun 29^th, 2003 at 12:11am

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VERY nice! I agree with Joker that having the scream in there would be great

Is there also to be a version for CFS3?

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Reply #7 - Jun 29^th, 2003 at 4:45am

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I also would like to add that that looks like one very nice a/c

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Reply #8 - Jun 29^th, 2003 at 5:30am

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GIMME GIMME GIMME!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Reply #9 - Jun 29^th, 2003 at 8:41am

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looks awsome. . .and with the right sounds. . .

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you can tell i am mildly excited Roll Eyes

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Reply #10 - Jun 29^th, 2003 at 10:20am

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Thank you for all of your feedback Shocked

First of all, yes we are going to make a cfs 3 version, along with fs2002, and cfs2 versions. Some thing that we haven’t mentioned before, is that we are also going to make the Ju 87 G-1 (the one you see there is a Ju 87 B-2).
The G-1 variant of the ju 87 series was modified off of the D-3, and used as a tank buster, carrying two 37 mm modified Flak 18 guns( one on each of its wings).

Joker, we made this in gmax, so depending on the sdk fs 2k4 gives us we may be able to just re compile it into the right format. Wink

yes, we are planning on adding in the scream (in fact I already have the sounds!), but we haven’t really gotten around to doing it yet. like I said before, Its very simple, and it wont be a prob to add in. Wink

As far as the progress goes, for those that are interested:

modeling for exterior= complete
textures for exterior = complete
modeling for VC = complete except for gauges
textures for VC = needs to be finished
2D panel = painted, but needs gauges
Sounds = needs to be started
cfg file = needs to be started

again thanks for all of your feedback.

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Reply #11 - Jun 29^th, 2003 at 10:23am

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I Wonder why the didn`t Design a Stuka For CFS3
in the First Place

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Reply #12 - Jun 29^th, 2003 at 12:43pm

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Bloody good shots, mate! Can I take her for a spin when you get through with her?

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Reply #13 - Jun 30^th, 2003 at 2:04pm

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Very nice work. I am sure everyone would be pleased with your stuka. If they are not then, they don't know their wasit from their whoosit.....

Great work!

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Reply #14 - Jun 30^th, 2003 at 5:50pm

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I Wonder why the didn`t Design a Stuka For CFS3
in the First Place

Cause it was withdrawn from front line service on the western front by 1943.

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Reply #15 - Jun 30^th, 2003 at 6:10pm

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Lookin' real fine so far, ....heres my "want" list.......

Winter Scheme.......
....if you have the scream, then you need to model the sirens on the gear legs.....

Gee long list of additions......

Queued up and waiting..............

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Reply #16 - Jul 1^st, 2003 at 3:16pm

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Rifleman... How can we possibly make a CFS3 aircraft without Winter Textures Grin

as for the siren, that we actually over looked, so thanks for pointing that out Wink

Oh, and Angel_Maker, I guess we can get some beta testers for those that want to take it for a test spin Wink

as far as progress goes. We have finished converting our ju 87 B-2 into a Ju 87 D-3, and a Ju 87 G-1. We will be posting some more pictures of the new Ju 87 variants for those interested later on this week.

That’s all for now, and thanks for the suggestions and comments! (and for your want list Rifleman Wink

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Reply #17 - Jul 1^st, 2003 at 4:20pm

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Don't put the siren on the tank busting Stuka's. I don't think they had 'em. I'll check it out...

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Reply #18 - Jul 1^st, 2003 at 7:02pm

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I thought it wasn't actually a siren but the wind "whisteling" from the dive brakes?

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Reply #19 - Jul 2^nd, 2003 at 12:18am

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yes the earlier stukas have sirens mounted on thier gear to "intimidate" the enemy. However they took them off the reduce drag on an already slow bird. so i also dont think they had the siren on the G1 (tank buster)

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Reply #20 - Jul 2^nd, 2003 at 12:29am

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nice pics and that plane is really comin along, fantastic work. BTW....can i beta test.. Wink

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Reply #21 - Jul 2^nd, 2003 at 3:10am

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Looking good! But some picky questions from a picky person for the CFS3 version. Will there be:

Customizeable color options (nose, wing, fuselage and tail?)
Customizeable Letters?
Nose Art?
Default CFS3 pilots used, not a gMax modeled one?
All stock animations (especially canopy)?
FPS Issues
- Will textures be in one file, not amongst a whole lot?
- How many polys compared to stock?

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Reply #22 - Jul 2^nd, 2003 at 11:29am

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Ok, scorpion, I guess we can make customizable colors for our ju 87. The only thing I am concerned about customizable colors is that where ever the color is, is there a degrade in texture quality?. What I mean is are the rivets and weathering taken away?. However if every one wants to be able to customize the markings its not a very hard thing to do, and we can go ahead and do it.
If people do want us to make the customizable colors we will probably most likely make them in the following places; a stripe around the nose cowling, a stripe on the rear fuselage (as seen in pictures), a "V" shaped stripe on the left wing (as seen in pictures), and a stripe on the rudder control surface. If you have any objections just tell us Wink

Now, as for letters, we can definitely do that, we will probably put them on the rear fuselage, and maybe on gear skirts ???

Nose art we will also do for sure, but I don’t know, we might even pain some of our own Grin

The pilot will also be the default CFS 3 pilot. I don’t know if you have noticed in the pictures, but the pilots in the plane right now are CFS 3 pilots.

Now, I don’t know exactly what you mean by stock animations, so let me just say this if it helps clear any thing up... Any thing that can move in the real airplane is animated Wink

(dive brakes, ailerons, elevators, rudder, gear suspension, spinner, prop, flaps, cowl flaps, and canopy)

On to FPS issues. For my texture maps I took extra care to make sure all of the textures were placed on just one 1024X1024 texture sheet, however the prop is placed on a separate 256X256 sheet because we needed a transparency map on it.
as for the model, I may have to ask mustang about, but I am certain that the poly count does not break 20,000, so in other words, it has pretty much the same amount of polygons as the stock CFS 3 planes.

BTW OZ, sure you can beta test it once we get it ready Wink

P.S Now don’t worry Scorpion, being picky is the only way we get what we want Grin

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Reply #23 - Jul 2^nd, 2003 at 8:38pm

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Sounds all the better! You just don't know how enthusiastic I am about your aircraft! The only way I'd care more if it was a Corsair! Grin

What I meant by animations is if they're done right. I hate it when you have to lower the flaps to open the canopy. Or when the manual has an added bonus and tells you to press 'T' to activate that feature; I've completely customized every key command in CFS3, so very few of the kays are still at their original setting. Anyway, it sounds like you guys are comin' along pretty well with her, and I can't wait for it to be released (although I'd rather wait than have a rushed product, like that B-1 that came out awhile ago). As far as the colors go, I take it you mean this by nose and tail:

If you prefer, you can always leave one out like Microsoft did (no fuselage color for the P-47D). It's preferable all the color stripes (or whatever you want to call them) are there, but if they can't be implemanted well, then it's best to leave them out. If this was my plane I'd definitely add the nose, wing and fuselage stripes, but I'd take a hard look at the tail. And I must applaud you if you make the wing color that 'v' shape. Color stripes that aren't straight have never been done before, and I've been wondering if anyone would ever do it. At the rate good aircraft come out, I decided not to expect it, but you just never know what to expect. Wink

Ever since the Groundcrew came out with the He. 111 for CFS2, I've been heralding them as the best design group out there; their planes are free and good, a combo not often seen. Their recent release of a CFS3 Bf.110 only reaffirms my conviction. I've long since thought no one could measure up to them, but it appears I'm wrong, this Stuka is seriously challenging their Zerstoerer. One last note, as far as nose art goes, for the Stuka, I'd like to see this one (it was for the Tank Busters anyway). I'd recomend it on the blue dot in the picture above, or on the rudder (As seen on the Hs. 129).

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Reply #24 - Jul 2^nd, 2003 at 9:17pm

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For the color stripes, that's exactly what I meant for the nose and tail. We have also decided that we are going to model in all of the color stripes, and I am almost positive that making the 'V' is possible, so you can expect it on the final model.

For the animations we have all animations using the stock key mapping.

As for the nose art, It will be no problem to add that tank buster one in, but just one question... what color do you want it painted, white?

Oh and trust me, not rushing this is far from the hard part, the hard part is keeping from adding on, and making the plane more complicated Roll Eyes

Again Thanks for all of your feedback on what you wanted, and for all of your enthusiastic support! Wink

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Reply #25 - Jul 2^nd, 2003 at 9:27pm

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I'm looking in my World War II aircraft book (quite a hefty little thing) and to be historically correct, the tank art would need to be white. This is for the Eastern Front however, and I don't know what color it was in 'Afrika'. I'll look into it.

Which reminds me, after you release it and all, even if it's not correct for the version you're making (G and B?), it'd be nice if you'd release an Africa scheme. In my book, however, it shows a B-2 in the 'color plate' with North African camo. I could give you the info here (gets kinda specific), but I think that would be plagiarism.

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Reply #26 - Jul 2^nd, 2003 at 9:40pm

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It will require quite a bit of extra work to make a new schime, but If you could show me a picture of what you want I might be able to do it Tongue

As for the info, if you realy think it is somthing that will be of use, you can probibaly IM me? But weather its usefull or not I will be prety enterested in seeing what you have.

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Reply #27 - Jul 2^nd, 2003 at 9:54pm

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It was just a suggestion, I know how much work a plane is. The status of my Komet hasn't budged in a couple months. Check you messages in a couple minutes. Wink

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