I have no comlaints over the weapons. Remember that if a bullet hits nothing vital then the plane won't go down. With cannons any hit is going to do damage but it still depends where you hit.

i have no problem shooting down a aircraft, its 3 to 8 shots to shoot down a Do335 in a spit

It's more the bombers I was talking about.  When 50 20 mm shells get pumped into the fuselage of a B-25/26 in real life, I can gaurantee you is it at least going to fall out of formation.

And how is it that .5 seconds of gunfire from an AI airplane will often shoot you down, but you have to pore it into them for 2 seconds before they go down.

Uhhhh look at the big picture bro. IF they did tone donw the weapons(i think they work mighty fine) it is because in a sim its alot easyer to get on someones six and shoot/hit him then in real life. Trust me I have flown in an f 16 simulator over at Luke AF Base and well those f 16s are harder than you would think. They are not as manuverable as you may think and they have very specific conditions to make the bes out of it. If I were a trained f 16 pilot I could probably manuver like crazy but me an everage flight simmer found getting on the enemys six and getting a shot into him is alot harder. That is prolly why they were toned down. And it does matter where u hit.

it does seem to require a lot more hits than cfs2to bring down a plane , but  i noticed the closer you get the more damage you make.300 yard is the conversion?
in cfs 2 i can hi them from a mile away. this game seems a lot less arcade like as cfs2
i love this game

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Maybe you could point me to this history.  While I can't remember the number exactly (I think it's 10-20, but I can't remember precisely; and I might be way off but I don't think so) the source I cited was the U.S. Army Air Force.

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Are we talking about bullets and shrapnel?  Or direct hits from 20mm and 30mm cannon?  Becauase  explosive shells, which could shred all kinda of lines and hoses and manifolds without hitting them directly (as a plain metal slug would have to) are a lot more destructive.

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I can pump 50 20mm shells into a B-26 fuselage, and every single time, it will keep flying and usually not fall out of formation!!!  I can almost gaurantee you that in real life, 50 hits from 20mm cannon WILL blow the entire tail off, period.  It's not that sometimes a B-26 will survive 50 20mm hits to the fuselage from the rear, its that it survives every time!

Do you people realize how fragile airplanes are?  These instances of planes coming home with damage... the super nasty ones... they count like, 200 shrapnel holes, spread all over the airplane?  Whats that, like 5 or 10 direct 20mm shells?

Let me put it this way.  A half-second burst from the M61 Vulvan (that 20mm Gatling gun on modern USAF fighters that shoots a little over 6000 RPM.) will destroy any airplane it hits.  Can we agree on that?  Can you imagine it taking more than a half-second M61 Vulcan burst to shoot down a B-26?  Well, in half a second, that gun puts out about 50 20mm shells.

I need to find some statistics on how many hits it typically took to shoot down WW2 era aircraft.  Anyone want to help me with this?

I did a number of runs with an Fw-190 firing only cannons, with all rounds fired into the fuselage from directly behind.  Every time the B-26 continued on for a about a minute (before I reset the scenario to try again) as if nothing was wrong.

I know the number of hits per kill is an average, but I feel I'm exceeding the average by several times with no result.  It just doesn't seem realistic.

And instead of asking me not to complain, why don't you just not read my messages?

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Kinda hard when you fill up half the board with complaints.

If you need more power in your guns - try the cannon on the Mosquito. Its more like a tank gun. Takes some aiming but will take down a bomber with less than one shot - okay one then.