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Jun 20th, 2003 at 12:59am
ben trashed   Guest

 
Hi Again Fellow Simmers !
Life goes on and a year or so has gone by and with RCS panels anniversary
anouncement I took a stroll by Roy's RCS Site only to find my name is still
posted on his site under his Nazi Like hall of shame and libelous Forum .
He accused me at that time of stealing some old MS Flightsim 98 gauges he had
laid self righteous copyrights to which I subsequently learned were WRJ_Gauges
used in Older MS Aircraft and are public domain . Any one of us can the put a
black dot on an MS gauge bitmap and call it our own by these standards .
  On my visit to his site I found this long winded statement describing Roy's
falling out with several members of his own team and the organization he was
supossedly helping with the R4D release and subsquently appears to be accused
of his own indiscretions involving the B25J worthy of his very own hall of
shame but apparently he was hoping for a low profile on this issue .
  So in recognition of his eternal trashing and posting of my mistake I wanted
to give Roy his own credit due , this is why we should keep it free folks and
not stifle other aspiring artists efforts by schoolyard selfish tactics and
attempts at intimidation through public humiliation efforts which Roy is a
master at . Seems what comes around goes around and his own self claimed
highest standards bit him on the rump !

  Once again Thank you Roy for your hall of shame and look forward to seeing
you being accused of more wrong doings in the future !

Falcon7



("RCS Panels - Statement

Many untrue and libellous accusations have been made against me directly, and
the RCS Panels

team by implication, on the web over recent weeks. To attempt to put the record
straight I

am issuing this statement.

It is not intended to be a full repudiation of the so-called ‘evidence’.

We are not posting any photographic evidence and/or detailed ‘point by point’
responses to

MAAM's accusations on the internet. This does not mean that we cannot defend
ourselves. We

have plenty of photographic/textual ‘proof’. We have been asked to submit a
detailed

‘defence’ directly to a number of independent parties to be examined. This we
have now done.

However, the crux of the accusations against me is that MAAM believe they have
some sort of

agreement with me that any reference material gathered by me at MAAM would
not/could not be

used in the production of RCS Panels Packages.  I can assure you that no such
agreement was

made.  I did receive a number of emails from MAAM demanding such an agreement;
however, I

ignored them.  I am in no way at fault if they assumed that no argument
constituted

agreement, which is not the case.  I own the copyright of my own photographs
whether taken

at MAAM or elsewhere and as such they can be used for reference. What I did
agree to (and

have abided by) was that our new B25-J would not replicate MAAM’s ‘Briefing
Time’.  It does

not!

Another accusation is that we have pirated Bill Rambow’s graphics. Again, we
have not. After

Rambow left the RCS Panels team, all his graphics were removed from the RCS
database. Our

new graphics expert, Steve Wayne did not use Rambow’s graphics and chose the
laborious,

time-consuming but ultimately rewarding method of hand-painting graphics, based
on images

provided by the team from various reference sources. Details of his techniques
and reference

sources have been supplied to the independent examiners.  Before the hounds
begin to howl,

it is entirely possible that the same reference material was used by both MAAM
and RCS for

certain elements of the product, but I can assure you we did not use any of
Rambow’s

bitmaps; we are quite capable of making our own. 

Perhaps we could pursue the issue of metadata stamping on the MAAM graphics at
some point in

the future - what have they pirated from us I wonder?! Certainly many of the
things in

MAAM’s current B-25 package are my ideas from the initial Beta work!

Long before they could possibly have seen any of our new images, it was widely
leaked that

Rambow / MAAM would make all efforts to get the RCS Panels package, and myself
in

particular, disgraced or banned for copyright infringement.  Russ Strine,
President of MAAM,

expressed concern that our success would impact on their sales.  His concern is


understandable but can in no way justify his attempt to ‘sink’ the opposition
by submitting

an open letter full of false accusations to AVSIM, and oddly, not to me!

Yet another accusation is that we have set out to deprive MAAM of income. On
the contrary,

the whole RCS Panels team had the interests of MAAM at heart, even after the
break away by

Rambow. I believe the following information will confirm this.

1. Version 4 of the R4D (where I started from scratch) was the first package
that was

intended to be released on CD. The team were all keen to raise some money for
MAAM. They

thought up the idea and called it ‘Donationware’.

2. It is well documented, that I was disgusted that only one in three hundred
users who

downloaded the programme from the net, ever bothered to register and send any
money to

support the Museum. To overcome this problem, a friend of mine and I, wrote the
"Time

Locking" software that forced users to pay and register to use any future
versions. I had to

insist this software was used for the release of Version 4.75 for FS2002
because at the time

Rambow was totally against its use. Jan Visser was so against it that he would
have nothing

more to do with the team and quit, initially withdrawing his own aircraft
model. I stood

alone on the principle of Time Locking but forced the issue and we pressed
ahead to the

release. Two weeks after the release, when Pete at MAAM announced that what I
had done was

fantastic and had massively increased contributions to MAAM, Rambow, curiously,
changed his

mind and publicly took ownership of the Time Locking concept.

3. As a direct result of the "Time Locking" software, donations to MAAM
suddenly went from a

few thousand dollars over a long period of time, to more than $95,000 USD
relatively

quickly.

4. After the "Bust Up", RCS Panels offered the completed RCS B-25J package to
MAAM, in their

colours if they wished, to raise funds. They refused.

5. I had previously put a package of ideas forward to enable them to raise even
more money

from the FS community members and the public in general. These stemmed from my
previous

commercial background, and none were taken up.

6. With my agreement and no strings attached, MAAM are still selling our
original CD of the

R4D version 7 to raise money.  I feel justified in claiming that most of the
innovations in

the R4D project were mine. The night lighting system, Overlay systems, Dual
Panel on the fly

system are examples.  So it would have been easy for me to have stopped these
sales 9 months

ago - but I didn’t, and again I believe these actions demonstrate that I held
no malice

towards MAAM and am strongly in favour of keeping vintage aeroplanes where they
belong, in

the air. My ongoing support for the MAAM cause has raised them a considerable
sum of money. 

Other than a life-time membership of MAAM which I am now unlikely to benefit
from, they have

an unusual way of showing their appreciation.

7. You will be interested to note that RCS Panels still offers full Technical
Support to ALL

users of the R4D product even though we are no longer connected with MAAM. 
This is a time

consuming activity but I am committed to providing  a worthwhile package of
support to the

FS community.

I offer the above as clear proof that I/we have no wish or intent to blight
MAAM and the

raising of funds for them. I consider that I/we have acted with honesty and
honour

throughout this unfortunate period.

All of this information can, if necessary, be backed up with documentary
evidence should

anyone see fit to mount a legal challenge.  The numerous communications between
Rambow, MAAM

and ourselves also serve to back up everything I say, and MAAM are welcome to
make them all

public if they wish.

I have tried to describe the true situation unemotionally and I contend that
MAAM have no

right or reason to continue to block access to the RCS B-25 package.



In response to MAAM’s ‘background’ to this sorry story, I would ask only;  ‘Why
did Rambow

leave the group?’ 

I can see this only from my personal, subjective perspective. Jan Visser had
responsibility

for the external model and I acknowledge his excellence in this area. However,
I found him

difficult to work with - and I suspect he had similar difficulties with me! We
can’t always

like everybody, I’m sorry, but that’s life. Once he had left the group over the
"Time

Locking" issue, I did not want to have to work with him again.   

I was concerned that the Gmax version of the R4D being sold at the WWII Weekend
in June 2002

was full of bugs and would lower our reputation.  When Visser (who, although no
longer part

of the group was still working on the Gmax version) trashed our sound
engineer's work and

files, I’m afraid that was the final straw and I withdrew my gauges and
effectively

cancelled the project.

Rambow strongly disagreed with my decision and genuinely hoped, I believe, that
if he got

Visser to apologise, I would have a change of heart. He did not understand that
that just

could not happen.  In part it then became an issue whether Rambow wanted to
continue to work

with the RCS team or with Visser. You know the outcome.

In spite of all of the above, the RCS team were still prepared to give Mr
Strine and MAAM

the benefit of the doubt, believing that they did not really know what had been
going on.  A

major problem with my/our relationship with MAAM had been poor communication.
When we

were team mates I trusted Rambow, why would I not?  He was the ‘man on the
ground’ and able

to visit MAAM frequently. Only after Rambow had left the team did I discover
that Mr

Strine's understanding of the situation did not reflect reality.  In simple
terms Rambow had

been treating me as a friend, gaining my trust, taking the major credit and
kudos for the

project but feeding MAAM with a very one-sided assessment of the previous RCS
involvement.

So I wrote to Mr Strine at length explaining the situation as I saw it in
detail. I made an

offer of the finished B-25 painted as "Briefing Time" and continuing sales of
the current CD

and I also made a commitment to strive to raise significant funds for MAAM even
during our

work with the Battle of Britain Memorial Flight. The only proviso was that he
had to make a

choice between Rambow’s new team or ours.  I suspected that this might be seen
as an

ultimatum but I felt that he could not sit on the fence.  Mr Strine made it
clear where he

‘nailed his colours’ and why, and whilst I think he made the wrong decision, I
fully

understand and respect his motivation.


For now, I am only concerned that those of you who know me are not left in any
doubt that my

integrity remains intact and that the RCS B-25 is now offered openly to those
flight-simmers

who would wish to download it for their personal enjoyment.

I have so often attacked others for not respecting my copyrights, and for so
long leapt to

the defence of others whose work has been pirated, that you surely cannot
believe that I

would have ‘changed my spots’.

I assure you I have not.

Roy Chaffin 

RCS Panels ")


















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Reply #1 - Jun 20th, 2003 at 3:12am

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yes ive read some of that before but why dont you put the MAAM statement instead of Roy's? I think the MAAM accusation statement has more reasoning and facts behind it...if you realy wanna get back at RCS...but please dont involve me in this..just a little point i wanted to make .  Smiley

*I dont take sides with either MAAM or RCS Panels..
 
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Reply #2 - Jun 20th, 2003 at 3:19am
visitor   Ex Member

 
Does this belong in FS2002?

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Reply #3 - Jun 20th, 2003 at 5:27am

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Another (I'm afraid to say) long winded Chaffin (et al)  episode. I doubt anyone with a life ever reads this stuff. One of the main reasons anything he ever does is such a big file is that he includes a 14MB word manual........

He should learn a little html & his manuals would drop to about 2MB.


Another case of 'let he who is without sin cast the 1st stone ... '
This has happened many times among certain well know FS folk.

Like me - I think most people really couldn't care less once it gets this 'serious' .....  Grin

I mean ...  come *on*!!  Grin
 

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Reply #4 - Jun 22nd, 2003 at 11:48am
Ben Trashed   Guest

 
I tried to find the MAAM statement about Roy on their website with no luck , but I would like to see it,  if anyone can direct me to the link ?   I can say I do feel vindicated already just knowing this scallywag ( and thats being nice ) Roy Chaffin has finally met his own credibility demise !  Thanks for the heads up  ,                                 

let's Keep it Free  ~! Grin
 
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Reply #5 - Jun 22nd, 2003 at 12:12pm

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Ben (?) - It would be more honourable if you would register & tell us who you are in real life.

It's easy for anyone to make accusations behind a curtain. Come out & face the audience. This post borders on being too negative & you identifying yourself would at least give the whole thing a level of authenticity....  8)
 

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