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HELP!!!!  GeForce FX 5600 video card problems (Read 656 times)
Jun 19th, 2003 at 10:11pm

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Hi. 

I am trying to improve my framerates.  If you look in the general FS2002 section you'll find a topic "More Frame Rates.... a puzzling problem" that I started.  It has lots of good info and documentation of my problems.

I have been trying to get a GeForce FX 5600 256 meg card to run FS2002 with Win XP and Direct X 9.0a.  It crashed the sim every time.

Tech support from the card mfgr's and the computer mfgr. can't solve it.  Say it is a problem with NVidea drivers and Direct X 9 coupled with MSFS2002.

Is this true?  Any solutions? 

What video card (I'll spend up to about $250 bucks) would you recoommend?

Machine specs are on that other posting but here it is again:

Pentium 4   2.4 Gig clock
512 Meg RAM
latest 845E full chipset driver set from Intel
latest BIOS update from ASUS
40 Gig C drive (location of sim), with about 12 gig used
120 gig E drive ....used only for FS download storage
Soundblaster Live PCI soundcard, newest drivers
Direct X 9.0a (tried the versions from about 4 sources)
Win XP, all latest updates from M$ current (except the one that slowed it down....which has been deleted)

OLD "working" AGP video card is a 64 Meg GeForce 2 MX/MX400 ( don't like the framerates), latest Detonator drivers from NVidia site.  Works fine...just slow.


Tried and failed to work with:

Asylum GeForce FX 5600  256 Meg
PNY GeForce FX 5600  256 Meg

Tried with latest drivers as well as those on the install disks.

Any suggestions appreciated.  Thanks.

best,

.....................john

 

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Reply #1 - Jun 20th, 2003 at 8:34am

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Is your Bios set up for the 5600? Like the graphics aperature setting (should be at least 256mb) and the 8x AGP setting? Because your mx card would be running at 4x AGP speed.

Also in the display.cfg file in fs2002 there are entries which enable video card options, check to see if your's is listed and not "remmed" out like some of the gf4 mx cards in there.

Is it just fs2002 you get probs in? Maybe it just cant handle all that ram.........    Roll Eyes
 

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Reply #2 - Jun 20th, 2003 at 10:05am

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Hi.  

I am trying to improve my framerates.  If you look in the general FS2002 section you'll find a topic "More Frame Rates.... a puzzling problem" that I started.  It has lots of good info and documentation of my problems.

I have been trying to get a GeForce FX 5600 256 meg card to run FS2002 with Win XP and Direct X 9.0a.  It crashed the sim every time.

Tech support from the card mfgr's and the computer mfgr. can't solve it.  Say it is a problem with NVidea drivers and Direct X 9 coupled with MSFS2002.

Is this true?  Any solutions?  

What video card (I'll spend up to about $250 bucks) would you recoommend?

Machine specs are on that other posting but here it is again:

Pentium 4   2.4 Gig clock
512 Meg RAM
latest 845E full chipset driver set from Intel
latest BIOS update from ASUS
40 Gig C drive (location of sim), with about 12 gig used
120 gig E drive ....used only for FS download storage
Soundblaster Live PCI soundcard, newest drivers
Direct X 9.0a (tried the versions from about 4 sources)
Win XP, all latest updates from M$ current (except the one that slowed it down....which has been deleted)

OLD "working" AGP video card is a 64 Meg GeForce 2 MX/MX400 ( don't like the framerates), latest Detonator drivers from NVidia site.  Works fine...just slow.


Tried and failed to work with:

Asylum GeForce FX 5600  256 Meg
PNY GeForce FX 5600  256 Meg

Tried with latest drivers as well as those on the install disks.

Any suggestions appreciated.  Thanks.

best,

.....................john


The 'slow'  XP patch is fixed...

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Maybe it just cant handle all that ram.........   
WinXP has no problems with 512MB or more RAM

And the GF-FX 5600 is the same as the MX type indication for the GF4, meaning it has some limits imposed on clock speed and memory bandwidth.
but at least they managed to get rid of the horribl;e cooler
 

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Reply #3 - Jun 20th, 2003 at 10:26am

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I wasn't talking about system memory Ivan, I was talking about the Video Cards "on chip" memory in relation to the mainboard configuration and the software (FS2002) parameters.
 

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Reply #4 - Jun 20th, 2003 at 11:04am

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Congo and Ivan,

Thanks for the replies.

Yes, the graphics aperture is set to 256 when I try to run that card and I set it at 64 when I run the GeForce 2.

If the listing for my card in the config file IS remmed out....... is there a fix?

And so far... yes... it is just FS2002 that has the problem.  However I have no other apps I run that utlize the graphics display as intensively as the simulator.  I am not typically a "gamer".  My roughest graphics intense program is probably the liveview renerding of Punch Professional Home Design Suite....and that is pretty tame by comparison.  It works fine.

Glad to hear that the "slow" Win XP patch is fixed now  Wink

I have downloaded the NVidia drivers direct from the M$ site this morning....and will not try it to see if with that "digitally signed by Microsoft" driver the darn thing now works with the 256 meg card.

Thanks for the info.

best,

..............john
 

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Reply #5 - Jun 20th, 2003 at 2:10pm

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the Nvidia drivers from the M$ site are about 6 months old Cheesy

Go to the nvidia site and download the latest drivers. they support DX9 (which the one from MS site doesn't)

And go to full-screen mode, to enable the 3D mode of the card
 

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Reply #6 - Jun 20th, 2003 at 6:46pm

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Ivan,

Thanks.... but I have solved the issue I think.  I traded in the Nvidia driver type GeForce card on an ATI Radeon 9600.  Seems to be solved nicely so far.

I had already tried the latest drivers from NVidia...as well as versions from two GeForce installation disks...and the M$ one in a desparate attempt to get it to work.  It is apparently a KNOWN glitch.....if the tech at Asylum is telling me the truth.....after countless hours of talking to OTHER tech at Asylum and screwing around  Angry.  But they are pointing at Microsoft...not saying their card/drivers are at fault in any way.

See the other thread in the general FS2002 area for all the details of the mess.

Thanks for the idea though.

best,

..............john
 

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