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Breakfast, Lunch and What?? (Read 1064 times)
May 24
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, 2003 at 1:58am
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I noticed Fozzers post about 'Spam' (thank you Foz) and I thought to myself, there really is a bit of a language differece between the "supposed" English speaking Nations.
(Ha, an Australian should talk!)
For instance, here, the most common terms for the three meals of the day are:
Morning - Breakfast (or Brekky)...lol
Midday - Lunch (no other term I'm aware of)
Evening - Tea (believe it or not. We know that tea is a beverage but for some reason most of us call this meal "Tea" although "Dinner" is also used.
As far as "Supper" is concerned, well, I don't think I've ever heard an Australian use the term except when describing Leonardos wonderful painting (or talking about that first "Christian version of Passover" which of course is the subject of the painting).
As for calling Lunch (midday meal) Dinner, well, that must be a British thing.
I'm aware of many, many terms that are used here that no-one would ever have heard of, but that's unfair, especailly as we are well known for our 'unique' and 'cryptic' way of speaking.
I would , however, be interested in hearing about some of the 'unusual' terms that you other people have for one thing or another.
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May 24
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Hi Brensec, the whole dinner/supper/tea thing is related to the time you eat the evening meal. Tea is between 17-18.00 supper is between 18-19.00, and dinner is consumed anytime after 19.00 is the traditional convention.
The military has thrown up some odd conventions on the word 'food', the Army call is 'Scoff', the Royal Marines call it 'Scran', and the RAF calls it 'Nosh' or 'Grub'.
The Royal Navy insist on calling the toilet 'heads', whilst everyone else refers to 'the bog' or the 'the sh**ter'.
Ugly girls have their own special terminology too, the RM refer to them as 'gronks', the Army 'pigs', and the RAF use 'moose'.
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May 24
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Hi Bren....
...!
The meal arrangement here in England, is something we inherited from our parents, grandparents, etc....
Breakfast, is what it says, the first meal of the day when arising. Egg, bacon, tomato, mushrooms, bread and butter.
Lunch, a cup of tea/coffee, with a biscuit or two, or maybe a cheese sandwich, at around 10 o'clock in the morning. (Always a break for workers, (manual and office), sometimes refered to as a "mid morning break".
Dinner, at around 1 o'clock mid-day, the main meal of the day, meat pie, etc, potatoes, carrots, greens, gravy, etc, glass of wine....
...!
Tea, around 5 o'clock, (tea-time), pot of tea, sandwiches and cake(s).
Supper, at around 10 PM, a nice tasty, small, warm meal, to settle the tummy, before going to bed.
This is what occupies my day, with reference to daily meals...
...!
It's the arrangement which goes back to the beginning of the last century in England, affected in a large part by the two world wars, and the need to have substantial, regular, meals when food was in short supply.
It's one of those routines which parents pass on to their children...
..and is the best meal routine for our bodies...
...!
Cheers Bren, interesting subject!
ooops, nearly 9 AM, egg and bacon nearly ready...ooohhh the smell...yummy...!!
Paul.
(England).
P.S. another important note. All my meals are eaten with everyone sat around the dining table, never in the lap, sat in front of the television....!
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May 24
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Interesting subject. Do you have an hour or so to kill while I bore you? LOL
In class-concious Britain (this is still alive & well) you can usually tell a person's background by how they refer to the midday meal. I came from a poor working-class background & we always called it dinner.
We also had school dinners at Grammar School where most of the pupils came from an upper middle-class background.
At home, the afternoon meal, usually the main cooked meal of the day, was always referred to as tea. I think this comes from the old expressions High Tea or Afternoon Tea. This meal is sometimes called Supper which was our name for an evening snack. ???
I could go on but will leave you suitably confused.
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May 24
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Thanks mates,
Some interesting replies!
as you point aut Fozzer, the body, I believe is better off and happier with regular small meals rather than the 2 or 3 larger ones that Western culture seems to have evolved over the last hundred or so years.
The "lunch" that you describe, we call "morning tea', which I'm sure is familiar to most.
Thanks Ozzy, I never considered that the 'time' of the repast would determine the name of it.........interesting!
Oh and X, how were you fortnuate enough to be the first to hit on that particular 'name'!
The 'bonnet', 'boot' and 'mudguard' (fender) debate has been mentioned in many a debate in this forum. It will be eternal!
Although, Ozzy, I like the subject you brought up about "ugly girls". There are plenty of 'civilain' terms for the same. Although here, it depends more on what era you grew up in.
(God I hope 'Stormy' doesn't see this, although I suspect she's like most women and has a way of sniffing out these kinds of 'generalised, semi-insulting posts'.............lol
)
In my age group, the terms vary for girls ranging from 'plain' to 'abhorrent'
In order of the 'seriousness' of their 'condition' (least to most) we have:
Rough
F'ugly
Scrag
Leper
Horror Head
Bush Pig
What a 'charming' bunch we were!
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May 24
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Interesting subject. Do you have an hour or so to kill while I bore you? LOL
Afternoon Tea. This meal is sometimes called Supper which was our name for an evening snack. ???
I think I can safely say that most Australians consider 'supper' to mean the same, a late evening snack.
Probably born out of our exposure to American Movies and TV which I think give this impression more often than not.
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May 24
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Our biggest occasion of the week was the good old Sunday Dinner. This was usually roast beef with all the trimmings & often took all morning to prepare. It was served around midday or whenever the old man staggered home from the pub. Woe betide him if he was late.
Apart from special occasions this tradition is gradually dying out along with family meals of any type.
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May 24
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....In my age group, the terms vary for girls ranging from 'plain' to 'abhorrent'
In order of the 'seriousness' of their 'condition' (least to most) we have:
Rough
F'ugly
Scrag
Leper
Horror Head
Bush Pig
What a 'charming' bunch we were!
Over here in England they all inter-breed with similar males, so you can imagine what it is like walking through our towns and observing them*.....
....!!
Cheers...
Paul.
(England).
*preferably at a great distance...
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Our biggest occasion of the week was the good old Sunday Dinner. This was usually roast beef with all the trimmings & often took all morning to prepare. It was served around midday or whenever the old man staggered home from the pub. Woe betide him if he was late.
Apart from special occasions this tradition is gradually dying out along with family meals of any type.
Hi Doug....
You must pop over to my place sometime...
...!
...that's the type of meal I cook seven days a week...!!!
Much cheaper and healthier than all the fast-food c**p.
People come for miles around to sample my meals..
...!
(Do you rember some of my recipies I have posted here)?
My beloved gas cooker comes a close second to my Honda motorbike...
...!
Everyone sits around the dining table chatting to one-another...!
I keep up the tradition with all my family and friends... 8)...!
Cheers...
Paul....for Fozzers famous meals...
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Hi Doug....
You must pop over to my place sometime...
...!
...that's the type of meal I cook seven days a week...!!!
Much cheaper and healthier than all the fast-food c**p.
People come for miles around to sample my meals..
...!
(Do you rember some of my recipies I have posted here)?
My beloved gas cooker comes a close second to my Honda motorbike...
...!
Everyone sits around the dining table chatting to one-another...!
I keep up the tradition with all my family and friends... 8)...!
Cheers...
Paul....for Fozzers famous meals...
(England)
Sounds nice Paul. Thanks for the kind offer. Watch out as I might take you up on it if I'm ever in the vicinity.
That's a tad unlikely as I've never been to Herefordshire.
Seriously, maybe we could arrange a visit to your local airfield sometime.
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The note left by Foz on B'fast, Din-Din, T, and Suppeh, is the way I grew up, and isn't foreign at all to me.
All time fav outside of Breaky has just got to be " Egg n' Chips ".........was even brought to light by Shirley Valentine while in Greece..........
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Woe betide him if he was late.
What a flashback you just gave me with that line........haven't heard that one in yonks.........wus me mams favourite when ah wus a lad in 'Sheilds.......
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I find people from the UK, especially the North, tend to scrunch words together. Sayings like "cupatea", "keytadoor", and "bloody-ell".
Americans have many strange pronounciations and spellings.
Roof =Ruff: Boston Area
Wash =Worshe: Boston Area
Color = Should be colour
That's just a taste. Of course us Canadians have Eh but that's mainly out east in the Maritimes.
I only pretend to know what I'm talking about. Heck, that's what lawyers, car mechanics, and IT professionals do everyday.
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"Innit?" is the annoying, lazy, word we tend to use now, meaning "Isn't it?", or "Is it not?"
But my favourite one of all from "Up North" , (oop North), is, "Choofin' 'eck as like". Ken will problably decipher this one better than me...?
...and what about "...on Ilkley Moor 'baht 'at".
"...on Ilkley Moor without my hat"....
...!
But to take the biscuit it's got to be Rab C Nesbit (from Glasgow). Now if anyone can understand him they can have two biscuits...
...!
(...a bit like Texans..).....ooopppsss....
....!!
LOL...LOL...LOL...!
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...anyway....what's all this got to do with din-dins...?
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hey fozzer can I have my biscuits please
I think I've got one, is a Scouser (sp) the same as a Ned?
thinks he/she is clever, drinks for the sake of it, tries to be friendly but p***es everyone off and is the arch nemissis of "giffiks".
note: female neds known as "ginas" due to exessive fake tan resulting in a close resemblence to an orange drink.
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This reminds me of the Simpsons where they go to Australia.
"Their In the lift, in the lorie, and all over the mulunga guilderchuck!"
"They's like kangaroos but they's reptiles they is."
"We have them in America, they're called bullfrogs."
"What?! That's an odd name, I would've called em chazwozers."
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This reminds me of the Simpsons where they go to Australia.
"Their In the lift, in the lorie, and all over the mulunga guilderchuck!"
"They's like kangaroos but they's reptiles they is."
"We have them in America, they're called bullfrogs."
"What?! That's an odd name, I would've called em chazwozers."
Heh! settle down there! You forgot the 'bongwizza'.
Although the spelling's not too bad.............lol
"Ahhh.......it's just a little kick in the bum!"
With regard to the 'Sunday Dinner' you mention, Hagar. We have much the same 'tradition' which is also dying out (if not completely gone except for some rare households). Many of our traditions are of English origin anyway, given that that's where we originated ourselves (except for us Irish!
).
Although the bit about waiting for 'dad' to get home from the pub. ON A SUNDAY MORNING?
Our pubs have only been open on Sundays for the last 20 years or so.
Also, being Catholic, there would be no time for a pub visit between Mass and Lunch..........lol
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They're not the only ones that "Scrunch" words together.... Here in the states, some area's of California have like folks that like talk like totally off the hook! They'll ask you "what's up" by saying " 'sup?". Or, "What are you eating?" comes out like "What'cha e'in?". They say "Hi" to a life long school friend, by saying " 'Sup, Dog"? And, they call their 1982 Chevy their "Hoopty"!
English is probably the most difficult language to learn and master, because of all dem dang fool slang words!
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They're not the only ones that "Scrunch" words together.... Here in the states, some area's of California have like folks that like talk like totally off the hook!
True, but you need a translator to understand British slang, it's a totally different language
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