Simviation Forum - Eurofighter Typhoon vs. Dassualt Rafale

May 21^st, 2003 at 5:50am

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I found these two aircraft to be very similar, so I did some research. Turns out France was in on the Eurofighter project at the start but opted out as they wanted a lighter fighter than the rest of the countries. So, the two planes are essentially the same design. The G limits aof the two aircraft are roughly the same (Eurofighter: +9G, -4G Rafale: +9G, -3G) and the top speeda t altitude are nearly equal (Typhoon: Mach 2.0 Rafale: Mach 1.8 ). Botha are highly manovourable, as are all delta wing fighters and they are almost identical dimension-wise. Typhhon's fuel load and other details are still 'classified', but they will probably be very similar to the Rafale's.

One major difference is the fact that Typhoon is afterburning and the Rafale isn't.

Here's the screenshtos of the two planes:

http://www.simviation.com/yabbuploads/DassaultEuro_01
http://www.simviation.com/yabbuploads/DassaultEuro_05

http://www.simviation.com/yabbuploads/DassaultEuro_02
http://www.simviation.com/yabbuploads/DassaultEuro_06

http://www.simviation.com/yabbuploads/DassaultEuro_03
http://www.simviation.com/yabbuploads/DassaultEuro_07

http://www.simviation.com/yabbuploads/DassaultEuro_04
http://www.simviation.com/yabbuploads/DassaultEuro_08

We'll just have to wait and see what the Typhoon can really do, though... Wink

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Reply #1 - May 21^st, 2003 at 6:41am

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nice, i love that Typhoon alot, downloaded it yesterday...flies very good! i'm going to see one at the Paris Airshow next month!

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Reply #2 - May 21^st, 2003 at 7:43am

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well, both designs (I should actually say 3, you forgot the Gripen) were started at the smae time, with the same concept in mind, delta+canard, they all look alike, except the gripen, which has only one engine. It's really no surprise that their spec's are the same, because they all utilize the same technologies, as well as a similar (or identical) airframe built out of the same materials.

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Reply #3 - May 21^st, 2003 at 7:53am

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hey whitey do you get the air combat collections magazine?? there is a whole thing on the rafale including a model of it

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Reply #4 - May 21^st, 2003 at 8:48am

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Yep, just back from down the down the shops to buy it...LOL. Wink

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Reply #5 - May 21^st, 2003 at 8:49am

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well, both designs (I should actually say 3, you forgot the Gripen)

euh..no. the gripen has just one engine,so you can't compare them properly.

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Reply #6 - May 21^st, 2003 at 3:51pm

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What do you mean Rafale has no afterburner? I suggest looking up rafale pics on Airliners.net.

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Reply #7 - May 21^st, 2003 at 4:03pm

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my main wants were the f-14 and apache and also the sea harrier when it comes out, i was dissapointed that they left out the lynx though.
i'll be interested to see how many more issues they go for though its meant to be 32 but these magazines seem to die after a few issues, i was surprised at the quality of the models to, better than most plastic ones you pay double for

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Reply #8 - May 22^nd, 2003 at 12:09am

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hey whitey
the rafale is afterburning, i've seen it on full afterburners Wink

at the airshow.
also an advantage with the rafale is that it is semi-stealth (reduced radar signature to more than half of the plane) wereas the typhoon isn't, also it has conformal fuel tanks, most probably extending the range of the rafale beyond that of the eurofighter.
also it's doesn't cost sh*tloads of money Grin

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Reply #9 - May 22^nd, 2003 at 12:45am

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wow, thoose are amazing Craig, typed words have trouble describing how good thoose are Wink

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Reply #10 - May 22^nd, 2003 at 7:05am

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also it's doesn't cost sh*tloads of money Grin

yeah,you're right. i think the eurofighter is one of the reasons, why the german government has to save every cent.

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Reply #11 - May 22^nd, 2003 at 10:25am

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My apologies.

Just downloaded an update for the Rafale that adds afterburners. Although, I can still get the plane to -5.2Gs before I overstess it... Roll Eyes

Y2Craigie: I've got the magazine ordered through a newsagent. Even if the publishers stops sending it to big shops like WHSmiths, they'll make them for subscribers and people who order it every week...like me. Wink

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Reply #12 - May 22^nd, 2003 at 10:44am

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cool

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Reply #13 - May 22^nd, 2003 at 11:10am

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hey whitey
the rafale is afterburning, i've seen it on full afterburners Wink

at the airshow.
also an advantage with the rafale is that it is semi-stealth (reduced radar signature to more than half of the plane) wereas the typhoon isn't, also it has conformal fuel tanks, most probably extending the range of the rafale beyond that of the eurofighter.
also it's doesn't cost sh*tloads of money Grin

Well if they're fuel consumption in the sim is anything to go by (it's probably not, though...), Typhoon has a definite advantage. The Rafale seems to use a lot more fuel at 32000 feet and half throttle. But I don't think the Rafale dynamics are as accurate as the Eurofighter ones...after all, Eurofighter liscenced the DSB Typhoon. Cheesy

BTW, I got Tyhpoon to an airbase in southern Spain from BAe Warton using about 60% of it's fuel load...anyone want to find out what the Rafale can do? Cruise speed should be near Mach 1.7, for fairness BTW... Wink

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Reply #14 - May 22^nd, 2003 at 5:26pm

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Reply #15 - May 26^th, 2003 at 5:14am

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I Love that Typhoon, i saw one at the Farnbrough Airshow 2002, they are bloody loud, he was taking off and he put his after burners on, so loud that it made my 10 year old cousin cry! LOL impressive though. Shocked

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Reply #16 - May 26^th, 2003 at 5:50am

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it definatly is a great plane to watch upclose i was at farnbourogh when it was still in development and they had the test plane it was amazing

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