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Reply #15 - Jun 1st, 2003 at 4:35am

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I think it's the same everywhere - depends where you go. I would never buy a machine from the popular "high street" outlets or PC supermarkets. They cater for a different market, usually the poor sods who know nothing about computers. If you know what you want, get something made up to your own specs by a reliable company, like the local guy you mention. In my experience they give a much better after-sales service too.

A 60 GB HD is quite normal these days (or even 80 GB). They're comparatively cheap & you can never have enough memory. Mine is 40 GB & almost full. I need to get another HD or start removing some junk.  Grin


Gees, 40 Gb of info is alot of info, mate.

I'm not a hoarder (not to say that you are........lol Grin).
I like to have only those things which I know I'm going to use, on the Hard Drive. I do have some CD's with games, programs and accessories on them but seeing as I never or hardly ever use them, I prefer to keep them off.
Between the Mrs and myself we only have about 7 Gb in programs and files.
Even if I had a need to keep huge archives of files for reference or a large business etc, I'd be inclined to burn the files onto discs and store them for use when I needed them. (It would be done for backup purposes anyway).
But then, each to their own......... Grin Wink
 

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Reply #16 - Jun 1st, 2003 at 4:51am

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Gees, 40 Gb of info is alot of info, mate.

I'm not a hoarder (not to say that you are........lol Grin).

Just call me Mr Squirrel. I'm an inveterate hoarder. I had most of SimV backed up at one time, not that I could find a specific file if I need it. LOL
I also have FS98, 2 versions of CFS1, FS2000 Pro, 3 versions of CFS2 & FS2002 Pro currently installed. I use them mostly for troubleshooting. FS2004 beta alone is 4 GB but will not run properly on my old 3d card.
 

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Reply #17 - Jun 1st, 2003 at 11:41am

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Hey boys!! Glad you like the tweak guide brensec. Hope it helps you out. I am sure it will. My machine is by no means a quality machine. If I had the money I would find someone or a good company to build what I want. But this one will have to do for now. With the tweaks I have learned over time, info from the likes of people like Hagar and others here, and a little "Mad Lab" experitmenting, my system handles all the high quality games I have put on it so far.

Update!! Hugh is getting deeper into solving his frame rate degredation problems. He had to go through a driver search for is Graphics card after reading some things in my teaking guide. He found a set that seem to be fine but still a little problem. At least he knows that one of the issues at hand is a driver problem with his card. So he is currently trying various old drivers to see if he finds one that works properly.  But, things are getting better. Stay tuned as the saga of Hugh continues.  Smiley
 

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Reply #18 - Jun 2nd, 2003 at 12:42am

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I hope he manages to sort his problems out.

Hey Fireman, I install the Cacheman and seeing as though I'm a 'Neanderthal' when it comes to understanding these things, I used the 'wizard' to set all the options for me.
I'm just about to see if I'm able to run my CFS2 on a higher graphics level or see if I last longer in an 'AI intensive' mission.

I'll let you know what sort of difference I notice.

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Reply #19 - Jun 3rd, 2003 at 7:19am

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Hey brensec, you should like Cacheman, I do.  Running the Wizard and selecting all is a good way to go. Going this route you will pretty much leave the settings at defualt.

Another easy option to try is; in Cacheman, look in the Profiles section. Here you will see "Games". Select it and then hit the "Load" button. These are preset and optimized for gaming. See if that works better for you.

Good luck.
 

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Reply #20 - Jun 26th, 2003 at 5:37am

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Hey

I have a couple of recomendations for you but first I will tell you what IM running on the computer that I built. I prefer to have Hard Drives, Mother Boards and Ram that has been on the market at least a year. Time and use is the best test for quality. In other words I do not go out on the leading edge of technology when it comes to those parts. selecting a good case is very important. You need good air flow and a case that does not create a vacum on the inside(from Fans). aluminum cools the best. Im not interested in pretty, or being cool. I run my computer in my buisness as well as for gaming. I do not run scuzzy.

Intel Pentium 4 Mother Board_D850MV_ 2 gig Processor

1 Gig_4 sticks_of RD Ram at 35 NANO SECONDS

Stepping 4 on 2 sockets,

Nvidia 4400 (128Meg) Video Card

CDR, CDRW, DVD, 3.25 drive

Internal drives_ 4_ 120 gig 7200 RPM Western Digital Hard Drives

1_ ATA controller card. Kingwin 436-4 aluminum case case

PC Power & Cooling 12 Fans, 850 to 1000 Watts, 12 to 30 Amps Max to the Processor/ Pentium 4 requires a minimum of 12 amps. Power is the key, you wouldnt put a lawn mower engine in your car and expect to go very far. you wouldnt drive your car with out coolant in the radiator.

XP_Pro The reason I picked XP_pro you can run NTFS instead of Fat 32 operating system. Less hard drive space and faster processing times.

If you are going from windows 95, 98 or Mileninium to windows XP or XP_Pro it takes some time to get use to. How ever the flight simulators from Microsoft will run with no problems. But you must install all the up grades for the operating system before you load any programs. Load the operating sustem and test it for a few days. Then do your up grades, then start loading programs ONE AT A TIME. Load one at a time and test it a few days before proceeding any further. You will save yoruself a lot of work and time. 

Bose speakers, no sound card, I left the wires off the mother board, better sound, I have the sound set up to run digital, the sound is much better and it will help keep your mother board from bogging down your system.

2_22 inch View Sonic Monitors

CFS_1  CFS_2  FS98 & FS2000

I run 45 to 1250 frames per second with 4 to 30_G

I also have a lot of addons, custom sound files AND FLY STOCKS AND SUPER MODS.

Graphics and sound will slow your system down more than anything else. If you are running 3rd party scenery if it is not constructed correctly it will SLOW DOWN THE FRAME RATES. I only use certain parties scenery. Remember quality is always better than quantity.

I do have a lot of modS, sound files, SCENERY and TEXTURES My frame rates drop to 35 frames per second. Especially when you are flying 20 feet off the deck shooting at aircraft and the rounds are hitting the water and you have 120 aircraft in the air with 22 ships and counless anti air craft guns, and you are firing 8_50 cals at 175 rounds per second/ dice at 24 with a muzzle velocity at 2150 feet per second, muzzle flash is set at 2 and all sound files are modified. OUCH_LOL

I always change my DP files, Tracers I have 100 percent out of one gun unless it is a coarsair, they did not fire tracers, The other guns reguardless how many or rounds per second they fire do not have trace rounds. If you are flying a mod or a super mod tracers can and will crash the program.

1. disck clean up

2. defrag your hard drive.

3. Check your system resources you should be around 83 to 94 percent free.

If not free them up or do a clean boot. If you are not sure check with the mfg or read your help files in the windows operating system.

4. Buy 2 cans of oxygen and clean the inside of your computer including fans. Heat kills frame rates. should be cleaned once a month.

5. Purchase some plastic conduit. I ran all electrical wires thru the conduit and routed the wires along the sides of the case. No wires in the centre to disturb air flow, this dropped my internal tempretures from 92 degrees centigrate to 78 degrees centigrate. You can purchase the conduit at hardware or automotive parts store.

6. If you are running Intel board go to www.intel.com

7. Download there monitor, it will give you system information, Power usage and Internal Temps.

8. I also purchased from PC Power and Cooling an internal temperature sincer. alarm goes off when the internal temp reaches 95 degree F. I have yet to set it off.

9. If that does not work. Open the case pull out the RD Ram. Check and make sure the Ram is same MFG, Part Number, and nano seconds. You should be between 30  to 45 nano seconds.

10. If you purchase more ram make sure all your ram comes out of the same box. In other words if you have 512 meg on 2 sticks and you decide to go to 1024 meg = 1 gig. You have to purchase a full gig not a half of gig.

THIS IS CRUCIAL. THE LOWER THE NUMBER THE FASTER IT WILL PROCESS. BUT FIRST CHECK AND SEE WHAT RAM YOU NEED FOR THE PROCESSOR and mother  board. CHECK with the board mfg, you can usually do this on there web sight. THE NANO SECONDS is crucial. you will need the Part Number off the Mother Board. You can get this off the mother board itself. See White Tag, You will need a Magnifying Glass to Read It. It should be by the Battery.

11. IF THAT DOESNT WORK THEN I WOULD LOOK AT PURCHASING A DIFFRENT VIDEO CARD. NVIDA, I HIGHLY RECOMEND. THEY HAVE VERY GOOD TECH SUPPORT.

12. IF YOU PURCHASE RAM IT IS BEST TO KEEP IT ON TWO STICKS RATHER THAN 4 STICKS but that gets very expencive.

Just some ideas that might help you or help someone else with low fram rates.

Regards

A and P

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Reply #21 - Jul 21st, 2003 at 5:50am

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To Hugh,

I'm not really the person to advise about Frame Rate Degradation but one thing I came up with was to uncheck a couple of things on the Scenery Library list.

Cheers
 
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