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The right way to land (Read 526 times)
May 10th, 2003 at 7:32pm
Sunfly   Guest

 

Can anyone of you tell me the right process you have to follow to land an airplane, when do you cut off engines, when do you set throttles to reverse, when do you set brakes, where do you have to land, etc

 
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Reply #1 - May 10th, 2003 at 7:47pm

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First, what kind of plane are you flying. The procedures are different for each plane. In general you need to slow down, add flaps and lower your gear, establish a steady descent that'll bring you to the runway in a gentle powered glide. As soon as you cross the runway threshold at about the height of a two story building, you need to cut power and pull up on the nose gently. You pretty much try to hold the plane in the air until you bleed off enough speed for it to settle on the runway (this part is called the flair).

The above works for most planes but different planes are different. In a tail dragger for example you pretty much fly it onto the runway (no flair) and jets are tricky to get the glide set up at first because of a slight lag in power settings and reaction of the aircraft.

If your using crash detection then pretty much anything that puts you on the runway without crashing is OK for starters. You can perfect your technique over time.
 

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Reply #2 - May 10th, 2003 at 7:49pm
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Which FS do you have?

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Reply #3 - May 10th, 2003 at 8:00pm
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I have FS2002 and usually flight 737 series and 747 series also fokker 28 and some mcdonnell douglas

 
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Reply #4 - May 10th, 2003 at 8:04pm
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Reply #5 - May 10th, 2003 at 8:15pm
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Ok, when you touch down, do you have to wait until the front gear touch down to set throttles to reverse?, or immediately  when the back gears touch down you set thottles to revers and apply brakes?
 
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Reply #6 - May 10th, 2003 at 9:43pm

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Yes.
After the main gear touches, allow the aircraft to settle down on the nose wheel. Then hit the speedbrake, and then reversers. (Hold F2, F1 to disengage).
 
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Reply #7 - May 10th, 2003 at 9:45pm

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Sorry. Then hold the brake.
This is all assuming that you've set down on the first 3rd of the runway.
 
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Reply #8 - May 10th, 2003 at 10:05pm

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in real life theres a rule for boeings, generally you cannot hit brakes at over 60knots, and also you cannot turn at over 60knots, well you can do theres things, but it gives major stress to suspension causing the suspension to break..thats why they invented reverse thrusters  Grin
 

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Reply #9 - May 11th, 2003 at 6:48am

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Might add:  Check your aircraft specs to see if glide speed or throttle settings are given and trim for that.  Use your throttle to adjust your altitude on the appro 8)ach rather than your elevator.
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Reply #10 - May 11th, 2003 at 9:06am
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when the airplane (boeing) touchs down, first I have to set throttles to reverse, then when It's low than 60Knots I apply brakes

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Reply #11 - May 13th, 2003 at 1:14am

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Might add:  Check your aircraft specs to see if glide speed or throttle settings are given and trim for that.  Use your throttle to adjust your altitude on the appro 8)ach rather than your elevator.
Bud



I've never been good at using the throttle to control the glide slope.  For me, I just slow the plane down to whatever I need to safely touchdown at, then use my pitch for decent rate.  I know changing pitch affects speed, so I take a longer final approach to get everything leveled on the slope.  Then the little movements in pitch I make doesn't change my speed. It is just easier for me this way.
 
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Reply #12 - May 13th, 2003 at 3:20am

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Question: have you ever considered learning to land the Cessna before going on to the aluminium cigars ?  That's now it's done in the real world, isn't it?  And let's face it, realism is what everyone wants now or at least that's what I'm reading these days.

On the other hand, if instant gratification is what you seek, you may succeed with enough tries of the "crash & burn" technique of learning to land.

Good luck

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Reply #13 - May 13th, 2003 at 3:57am

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Question: have you ever considered learning to land the Cessna before going on to the aluminium cigars ?  That's now it's done in the real world, isn't it?  And let's face it, realism is what everyone wants now or at least that's what I'm reading these days.

On the other hand, if instant gratification is what you seek, you may succeed with enough tries of the "crash & burn" technique of learning to land.

Good luck

Cal


True on that, when i first started on fs2000 (few years back) i used the cessna for a long time, then i went onto twin engine prop, flew that for a while, then i went to 737-400, now im basically excellent with cessna and can pretty much land blind, well most of the time anyway, and king air, im pretty good..but not to good with low visibility yet, and 737/747 i can fly them pretty well, and surprisingly pretty well in low visibility (because the 'heavies' are more stable to control than the smaller planes, but on the other hand, one mistake, and it takes long distance to correct the turn) so make "small shallow corrections" as Rodd Machado would say  Smiley

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Reply #14 - May 15th, 2003 at 3:22am

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in real life theres a rule for boeings, generally you cannot hit brakes at over 60knots, and also you cannot turn at over 60knots, well you can do theres things, but it gives major stress to suspension causing the suspension to break..thats why they invented reverse thrusters  Grin


Are you sure?  They don't use brakes over 60 knots?  Because the game manual says to use brakes when the main gear touch.

And, then what's with those (real life) emergency  instruction videos I've seen where the wheels are a fireball of sparks during a rejected takeoff or hot landing?  The brakes may burn off but the suspension doesn't break or anything.

Regarding reverse thrust, I once knew an instructor in a level D B1900 sim who would use the beta range in the air if the aircraft was going to overshoot the intended landing point, or was just floating over the runway too much.  He was a "Just fly the fuckin' plane, pull back on the yoke you PUSSY!" type guy (no exaggeration he actually used those words).  A total asshole, but at least he wouldn't fail you on check rides for bullshit reasons.  Rob Marshall was his name.
 
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