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Reply #15 - May 2nd, 2003 at 2:32am

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Seems my History Channel info is not exactly correct.
Sorry people, but it's not the first time.

History Channel have probably taken the phrase "first SUCCESSFUL" jetliner" and used some license.

I've come across this before. I have them on tape (of course) with regard to most of the assersions I make, and attribute to them. (I tape all the Aircraft and WWII episodes, when I can).
Another instance that comes to mind, which Hawker is aware of. They clearly state in a promotion of an upcoming Doco of the P38, that it was "responsible for shooting down the most aircraft in WWII". It turns out in the program itself, they "adjust" this with the phrase "most JAPANESE aircraft in WWII".

I should learn to be more careful of their EXACT meaning...............lol Grin

Thanks for the corrected info.    Grin Wink


There is no problem in saying something incorrect here Wink this post is educational and no one learns anything without making some mistakes, I’m not sure if everything I said is correct too but if its note I hope someone corrects it.

Keep it coming guys. Grin
 
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Reply #16 - May 2nd, 2003 at 4:27am

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i like the idea very much. every month a new plane...can't wait untill we talk about bombers  Wink
 
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Reply #17 - May 2nd, 2003 at 8:49am

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is it time for a new one already?

About the Tu-154, there is a rumout that every part is made in such a way that it only fits in the intended place and nowhere else... to keep the production going after the afternoon break.
 
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Reply #18 - May 2nd, 2003 at 11:52am
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WinkFirst "AF1" was a USAF C-54 (DC-4) nicknamed "Sacred Cow."  It was put together for FDR, used by Truman and Eisenhower.
 
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Reply #19 - May 2nd, 2003 at 11:44pm
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I remember Ike getting off of a 4 prop'r - and seeing footage of Truman - I was thinking maybe a Connie - but now that you mention it - I think you are right - DC4

MY GOD!!! I remember when Ike was President! I am old! Fozzer! How do I deal with this?



BTW - the Air Force One 707 discussed earlier - was the same that carried Kennedy's body to Washington - and used for many years after that - I think maybe it is still in reserve and was called up by Bubba or Poppa George once when the 747 went off the runway or something like that.
 
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Reply #20 - May 3rd, 2003 at 3:01pm

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I remember Ike getting off of a 4 prop'r - and seeing footage of Truman - I was thinking maybe a Connie - but now that you mention it - I think you are right - DC4

MY GOD!!! I remember when Ike was President! I am old! Fozzer! How do I deal with this?



BTW - the Air Force One 707 discussed earlier - was the same that carried Kennedy's body to Washington - and used for many years after that - I think maybe it is still in reserve and was called up by Bubba or Poppa George once when the 747 went off the runway or something like that.


How old would that make the 707 used by Kennedy? Was it he who commissioned it? (That would make it around 42 - 43 years old).

P.S. Re your reference to "Bubba or Poppa", Oso. I think I've asked this once before. What is it about the American media that has them incessantly calling the President George "DOUBLE YOU" Bush. We all know who they mean, for for God's sake. Do they think we are all idiots and don't know that the "Mr Bush" they would be speaking of in regard to current matters would be "the younger".
Just personally, it annoys the crap out of me to continually hear him referred to in this "elongated" fashion.
I suspect he is probably peeved occasionally, when he sees he is continually referred to "in deference" to his father.  Grin Wink
 
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Reply #21 - May 3rd, 2003 at 4:02pm

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well - looks like it's working!

OK - next question - where do we put this - what heading & what sub heading>

I can't be expected to come up with all the ideas guys.. !! Smiley

I love it when someone else does - but I also need you guys to tell me what to do with this one...

Surely it's gotta be under Real Aviation?
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Reply #22 - May 3rd, 2003 at 4:04pm

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how about general aviation??
 
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Reply #23 - May 3rd, 2003 at 9:45pm

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Ok so the first one will be the Boeing 707 tell everything you know freely


Depending on how its outfitted inside, its either a bus or a truck..........definately not a sporty cruiser or family sedan........  Grin
 
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Reply #24 - May 3rd, 2003 at 9:54pm

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how about general aviation??


How about under Real Aviation section with a new section called Aircraft of the week. Each entry should have only the name of the plane ex...Boeing 707.  Rules should say just only  info, myths and facts about that plane and no opinions. That seems to attract long debates way off the subject. 
I love a good debate, but it wouldn't work well in this section.

Of course This is just one persons idea. Grin
 
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Reply #25 - May 3rd, 2003 at 10:54pm
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Bubba is Clinton. The reason the media does that "Dubya" thing is part and parcel of the liberal philosophy - which the media is a backer of - you are not smart enough to think on your own - you can not make decisions on your own - especially regarding your well being and welfare of your family - since you are that stupid we must put a tag on "Dubya" so youins 'll know who we be talkin bout.

It is also an insult. About like calling Bush "Forest Gump". That is why I call Clinton "Bubba" - same insult.  Grin

So it just boils down to nuances of American politics. That is why the conservatives among us take offence at the "Bush is dumb" jokes - it started as a means to discredit him in the election - it is far from true. But the liberals still use it - they cannot beat him on a debate of the issues so they badmouth him - call him stupid and a draft dodger - Hmmmm - Wasn't it ok with them that Clinton was a draft dodger - but not ok for Bush? Hmmm

BTW - Bush wasn't  - it was more hooey fabricated by the media to influence the election.

 
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Reply #26 - May 4th, 2003 at 2:33am

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Bubba is Clinton. The reason the media does that "Dubya" thing is part and parcel of the liberal philosophy - which the media is a backer of - you are not smart enough to think on your own - you can not make decisions on your own - especially regarding your well being and welfare of your family - since you are that stupid we must put a tag on "Dubya" so youins 'll know who we be talkin bout.

It is also an insult. About like calling Bush "Forest Gump". That is why I call Clinton "Bubba" - same insult.  Grin

So it just boils down to nuances of American politics. That is why the conservatives among us take offence at the "Bush is dumb" jokes - it started as a means to discredit him in the election - it is far from true. But the liberals still use it - they cannot beat him on a debate of the issues so they badmouth him - call him stupid and a draft dodger - Hmmmm - Wasn't it ok with them that Clinton was a draft dodger - but not ok for Bush? Hmmm

BTW - Bush wasn't  - it was more hooey fabricated by the media to influence the election.


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Reply #27 - May 4th, 2003 at 10:07pm
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P.S. Re your reference to "Bubba or Poppa", Oso. I think I've asked this once before. What is it about the American media that has them incessantly calling the President George "DOUBLE YOU" Bush. We all know who they mean, for for God's sake. Do they think we are all idiots and don't know that the "Mr Bush" they would be speaking of in regard to current matters would be "the younger".
Just personally, it annoys the crap out of me to continually hear him referred to in this "elongated" fashion.
I suspect he is probably peeved occasionally, when he sees he is continually referred to "in deference" to his father.   


Was a direct response to this post Ivan which was 5 posts above mine.
 
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Reply #28 - May 4th, 2003 at 10:48pm

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Thanks for the info, Oso.

If it's anyones' fault, Ivan, it's mine. I asked the question, in direct reference to a valid post. When I just saw Osos' reply, I thought to myself "this is a bit off topic. maybe I should have asked the question elsewhere". But to do that would have meant starting a new thread and explaining my need to ask etc, etc.

Sometimes, I think it's alright to slip off topic a little (as I'm now doing) so long as it doesn't disrupt the flow of ideas or start debates about something totally unrelated.
If this is the end of it (and as far as I'm concerned, my question has been answered) then, I and a few others may have learnt something and we can get back to the 707.
So forgive me my transgression, I plead.  Grin Wink
 
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Reply #29 - May 5th, 2003 at 4:18am

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ok no offence meant.

Why did NWA use both 707's and DC-8-30's
 
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