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May 1st, 2003 at 11:02am

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The President of the United States will be landing on The USS Abraham Lincoln where he will address the nation tonight. Can you imagine being this Navy Pilot!! That is some serious "precious" cargo to carry.


President Bush was being ferried to the ship, still hundreds of miles off the California coast, by a tiny Navy plane. The S-3B "Viking" - to be called Navy One because of its presidential passenger - has room only for Bush, riding in the front seat next to the pilot, and two or three more passengers.

The president was to be treated with an exciting - though, according to administration officials, not considered risky - landing. As the plane lands on the Lincoln, cables stretched across the deck are to catch it and wrench it to a stop in less than 300 feet.

"Never can tell what's going to kick in," the president, a former pilot, joked to reporters before an Oval Office meeting Wednesday with the president of Colombia. "Let me just say, stay clear of the landing pattern."

Rear Adm. John Kelly, commander of the Lincoln battle group, said Thursday on CBS'"The Early Show" that the pilot slated to land Bush on the carrier "has flown through extraordinary pressure in support of combat operations for months now. I am very confident that he'll do a great job."

White House Communications Director Dan Bartlett said Thursday on NBC's "Today" that flying the jet to the carrier "is actually safer that a helicopter because you have the ability to eject. In a helicopter, if something goes wrong, you're stuck."



Should be interseting!!

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Reply #1 - May 1st, 2003 at 11:12am

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definatly interesting.
i am surprised how bush is meant to be upfront though?
maybe a personal request, since there is room in the back
 
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Reply #2 - May 1st, 2003 at 11:36am

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Hmmm. Interesting to say the least...........

When Mr Bush became el-presidente, he didnt have a clue where alot of the worlds countries are........that pilot better make sure that Bush doesnt want to fly the thing, he'll never find the boat.......

From Hazzard County to Naval aviator.....lol

There he goes.....on his way to meet up with his S-3B
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Reply #3 - May 1st, 2003 at 11:48am

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Now in fairness to GW he used to fly F4s. So did the USN, so no worries there. The problem is the Viking is a wee bit bigger, and I doubt GW has ever had to do such a short landing.
Personally I envy him, I've always wanted to try it for real! Some people have all the luck!

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Reply #4 - May 1st, 2003 at 12:16pm

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From Hazzard County to Naval aviator.....lol


Great Pic Trev... I used to watch them there boys when I was a little kid. I even painted an 01 on my bike reflector and jumped everything I could.........even the neighborhood girls!!! LOL

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Reply #5 - May 1st, 2003 at 12:19pm
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Hmmm. Interesting to say the least...........

When Mr Bush became el-presidente, he didnt have a clue where alot of the worlds countries are........that pilot better make sure that Bush doesnt want to fly the thing, he'll never find the boat.......

From Hazzard County to Naval aviator.....lol

There he goes.....on his way to meet up with his S-3B



Not funny. Not anywhere near factual. Angry Angry
 
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Reply #6 - May 1st, 2003 at 12:26pm

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from what i have read, apparently bush flew for the reserves and went AWOL, and from what i have heard he is still officially AWOL, but got off of any charges because of his contacts?
 
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Reply #7 - May 1st, 2003 at 3:15pm

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....Personally I envy him,....
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Reply #8 - May 1st, 2003 at 3:23pm

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I second Oso...not funny at all. Embarrassed
 
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Reply #9 - May 1st, 2003 at 4:18pm

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Not funny. Not anywhere near factual


Oh come on fellas, just because you make fun of the President doesnt mean youre insulting the country  Wink
Anyways, hes gonna have a heck of a ride
 
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Reply #10 - May 1st, 2003 at 4:21pm

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Please lighten up guys. You should know by now that most of us around here don't take these things too seriously. I don't do it here but one of my favourite pastimes is taking the rise out of our "esteemed" leaders. They're all fair game as far as I'm concerned. Comes with the job. Wink
 

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Reply #11 - May 1st, 2003 at 4:58pm

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I think George Bush Jr. is a fine, reputable man and an outstanding leader.

'Course, I'm still trying to get over 8 years of Billy "Bubba" Clinton .......now there was someone to bash! Roll Eyes
 
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Reply #12 - May 1st, 2003 at 6:41pm

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I'm glad most of the heavy fighting is now over
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Reply #13 - May 1st, 2003 at 8:02pm

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Geeze...how did all this happen since I was last here! All I was talking about was President Bush's ride in a plane and the pressure on the pilot to land on the Aircraft carrier! Why does it seem that alot of these threads totally go off the topic!!
I was liking these Non-Political forums!!    Sad

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Reply #14 - May 1st, 2003 at 8:04pm

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Yep it was a great landing!

(Bush flew 1/3 of the way out) Roll Eyes
 
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Reply #15 - May 1st, 2003 at 8:33pm

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Can't they teach him how to pronounce "nuclear"?

I cringe every time I hear him say nuc-u-lar.

(I'm not anti-Bush, in fact I voted for him.  Jimmy Carter had the same impediment despite the fact that he had a degree from the USNA in nuclear physics!  It just annoys the %$(& out of me.)
 
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Reply #16 - May 1st, 2003 at 8:38pm

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Why does it seem that alot of these threads totally go off the topic!!
I was liking these Non-Political forums!!    Sad

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Dave, please forgive me. I acted out of frustration, which is no excuse so I've edited my post.

I didn't mean anything, but should have realized that I would start another political flame war.

once again, sorry about that....
 
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Reply #17 - May 1st, 2003 at 8:38pm

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Don't bash his Southern accent, it's not his fault. Trev that truly wasn't a nice thing to say  Undecided. (He flew 1/3 of the way out to the boat so HA!) But besides that this is the first president to "trap" aboard an aircraft carrier. I'm sure the pilot was either the airwings CAG (Carrier Air Group Commander) or the S-3B's Viking squadrons CO. The squadron was VS-35 "Blue Wolves", and president Bush didnt fly F-4's, he flew F-102's for the Texas ANG. He wanted to fly in an F/A-18 Hornet but the Secret Service said no because there would be no room for a Secret Service agent.

Here's some facts about the Lincoln's latest deployment, she has been at sea for 10 months.

FACTS ABOUT THE USS ABRAHAM LINCOLN
Builder: Newport News Shipbuilding Co., Newport News, Virginia
Power Plant: Two nuclear reactors, four shafts
Length: 1,092 feet
Width: 252 feet
Speed: 30+ knots (34.5+ mph)
Takeoffs and Traps: 12,675
Sorties: 16,500
42,107 gallons of Milk were consumed
27,275 pounds of steak were consumed
29,000 pounds of hamburger consumed
2,403 gallons of ice cream consumed
227 root canals performed!!!

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Neat photo of the S-3B's tail camera for refueling.

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Posted by: Andrew N.P. Esselbach Posted on: Today at 9:38pm
Dave, please forgive me. I acted out of frustration, which is no excuse so I've edited my post.

I didn't mean anything, but should have realized that I would start another political flame war.

once again, sorry about that.... 


LOL Andrew....you did not have to do that!

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Reply #19 - May 1st, 2003 at 9:36pm

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Check this out:

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Bush had left from Naval Air Station North Island (San Diego) after being brought there from Washington via Air Force One. Just before he left for the carrier, Bush was briefed on what he would have to do to eject in case of emergency.

Officials also told CNN that in preparation for the flight, Bush underwent water survival training, which involves sitting in a simulated cockpit that fills up with water, then spins around, while the person inside has to escape and come up for air. To pilots, the training is known as "panic in a can."
 
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Reply #20 - May 1st, 2003 at 10:18pm

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  Since GWB flew 1/3 of the way to the carrier do you think he can add that to his flight log?
 
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Reply #21 - May 1st, 2003 at 10:22pm

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I think he could hehe. But it wouldnt look to good for a ANG pilot flying a Navy plane hehe  Wink
 

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Reply #22 - May 1st, 2003 at 10:22pm

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  AS for the word "nuclear" I think most of the U.S. pronounces it wrong.
 
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Here's some facts about the Lincoln's latest deployment, she has been at sea for 10 months.

42,107 gallons of Milk were consumed
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29,000 pounds of hamburger consumed
2,403 gallons of ice cream consumed

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he wanted a F-18 but he got a S-3

The secret service kept him from having been catapult-launched, and he was angry about that...

still he has a reason to be jealous: Putin flew a Su-30, which is a fighter-bomber, not a ASW aircraft
 

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Reply #25 - May 2nd, 2003 at 5:33am

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what i find funny is the whole secret service person having to be there. what use would he or she be if there was a problem with the plane? and arnt there some hornets with two seat two controls? where the RIO can actually fly it if there is a problem with the pilot. And in some ways being in that bigger plane would have meant alot more trouble with a bail out wouldnt it as they dont have ejection seats?? and have to jump out the door, correct me if i am wrong here
 
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Reply #26 - May 2nd, 2003 at 7:52am

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Right then.........For all of those out there that seem to think that i was bashing Mr Bush jnr, i would like to offer my apologies.
I personally think he is ok as a president and he is doing a pretty impressive job.

The comments were meant 100% as a joke.
Obviously some people didnt take it the way it was meant, i'm sorry.
On British TV, when he was 'elected', they made quite a thing of an interview where he was asked to name countries and other world leaders, nearly every answer was 'er, dont know'.
He may be the 1st President to 'trap' a landing, but his old man i believe used to do it all the time in an TB-5M Avenger.

Once again for the benefit of Oso, Jaffa, Blade and any others that i may have offended, I'm sorry.

 

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What other forums can you attend where everyone apologises all the time.....this place is So nice!!!  Grin Grin

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Reply #28 - May 2nd, 2003 at 10:11pm

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Actualy.... The S-3B has 4 ejection seats. 2 up front for the pilot and Tactical officer and 2 in back for the sensor operators. I can see why they picked the S-3 because of the aformentioned USSS officer that must be with the president at all times. if he flew in on the COD (C-3 Greyhound, freighter version of the hawkeye) there is no provision for bailout.

As to the saying that he was AWOL... I think that roumor came out of someone (political oppenent) saying his connections got him out of Vietnam duty. Actualy the Texas Air Guard at that time was an Air Defence unit flying interceptors. The F-102 was tasked to provide continental air defence so I doubt that he missed vietnam duty since only one squadron of F-102's was ever posted to vietnam and it was a regular air force unit. Durring Vietnam most of the air defence duties were shifted to the air guard to free up regular air force planes and personel for combat in SE Asia.

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THe two-seat Hornets have dual controls so if there was a problem the Pres. could fly it. But landing it would be another problem. Being 15 some years since piloting a fighter, let alone one as advanced as the F/A-18, he would likely eject than attempt to land it.
 

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Reply #30 - May 3rd, 2003 at 3:18am

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thanks for info brian
hey blade, at $35 million a pop.
your gonna land that hornet if it means reading all 3000 pages of the instruction manual Grin
 
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