Simviation Forum - Hanger too full up, can't move...!

Reply #30 - May 1^st, 2003 at 1:17pm

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I must have 75 aircraft in my A/C folder. I used to have about 175 aircrafts. I cleaned it out to 75 of my favorite.( that is when I wiped out my AI aircraft and Hagar helped me to re-locate the missing file). I do see what you are all saying. If I made a folder called let's say "My Hanger" and put the aircraft that I do not fly all the time,....Where does it go? Outside of my FS2K folder for use when I want to "grab" an aircraft therefore leaving maybe my "top 12" a/c in the FS2k2 A/C folder.
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Reply #31 - May 1^st, 2003 at 1:34pm

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I must have 75 aircraft in my A/C folder. I used to have about 175 aircrafts. I cleaned it out to 75 of my favorite.( that is when I wiped out my AI aircraft and Hagar helped me to re-locate the missing file). I do see what you are all saying. If I made a folder called let's say "My Hanger" and put the aircraft that I do not fly all the time,....Where does it go? Outside of my FS2K folder for use when I want to "grab" an aircraft therefore leaving maybe my "top 12" a/c in the FS2k2 A/C folder.
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Hi Dave... Grin

...!
Mine is more simple...
So that I know where it is I just created a Folder, gave it a silly name..!...and popped it into my Main Aircraft Folder, stuck all my, "...don't want these in my hangar at the moment", planes into the folder.
But...
It does mean that if I want to fly one of them I have to drag it out of the folder, with the help of an interested on-looker, generally in the pouring rain, and put it back into my Hangar....Whew... Roll Eyes

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(The folder doesn't interfere with my Aircraft list 'cos it doesn't have the identity icon present....know what I mean...)...?
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Reply #32 - May 1^st, 2003 at 1:43pm

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Hi Dave. This is the method I use in all my M$ sims. It works well enough for me. Create a new folder in the FS2002\AIRCRAFT folder. Name it anything you wish. Mine is named Hangar. To remove installed aircraft you don't use much simply drag them into the Hangar. Please be careful not to remove the defaults or 3rd party aircraft used for aliasing other aircraft to. (Also, I suggest leaving any that are used in saved flights or delete the flight first.)

The Hangar folder does not need to be in the FS2002 root directory at all. I leave mine there for convenience. It can be located anywhere on your main HD, a separate HD or on a CD. You can have as many Hangars as you wish.

PS. If you're like me & mess around with TTools don't remove aircraft you use for AI traffic. If you don't wish to fly them it's easy enough to convert them into AI Only drones by changing the Aircraft Type from 0 to 2 in the AIR file. This will remove them from the selection menu.

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Reply #33 - May 1^st, 2003 at 2:28pm

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PS. If you're like me & mess around with TTools don't remove aircraft you use for AI traffic. If you don't wish to fly them it's easy enough to convert them into AI Only drones by changing the Aircraft Type from 0 to 2 in the AIR file. This will remove them from the selection menu

Yep, don't move AI aircraft around. In some instances I do move AI aircraft to the hangar. A good example is the Oshkosh AI Traffic that I did. Remember? I had around 30 different aircraft being used, and unless I'm in the Oshkosh area or want to fly those aircraft, I keep them in a seperate hangar Wink

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Reply #34 - May 1^st, 2003 at 2:53pm

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Good suggestion Ozzy. I'm not sure everyone knows that burning files to a CD will convert them to Read-only. This is not a problem unless you want to edit them at a later stage. For example, CFG files or textures will need converting back manually from file Properties before any changes can be saved. Zipping the files or folders you wish to back up first will avoid this problem.

Hagar.... Question....

In my case I only archive the original Zip files to a CD, and I've never tried to use an unzipped file from a CD, so I didn't know about having to revert the file format for editing. (Thanks for the tip.)

What I usually do is format the CD, burn the files, then leave the session open so I can add or remove any files that I need to. It ends up just like an ordinary drive that I can drag and drop files to and from Windows Explorer.

So, even though I haven't actually tried it, wouldn't it depend on how the CD is set up to be recorded that makes the difference? Or, if I pulled an aircraft folder out of FS and dropped it onto a CD, would it make the files Read Only in this situation, too?

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Reply #35 - May 1^st, 2003 at 3:33pm

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Hagar.... Question....

In my case I only archive the original Zip files to a CD, and I've never tried to use an unzipped file from a CD, so I didn't know about having to revert the file format for editing. (Thanks for the tip.)

What I usually do is format the CD, burn the files, then leave the session open so I can add or remove any files that I need to. It ends up just like an ordinary drive that I can drag and drop files to and from Windows Explorer.

So, even though I haven't actually tried it, wouldn't it depend on how the CD is set up to be recorded that makes the difference? Or, if I pulled an aircraft folder out of FS and dropped it onto a CD, would it make the files Read Only in this situation, too?

Just fishin' for bricks here. My kids are the "CDburnin' Gurus". Grin

Tanksarott! Wink

Hi Fisharno. I also use the same method for file storage on CD. I'm not sure if these are affected in the same way but suspect they are. It would be easy enough to confirm this by recovering a file & checking the File Properties. I mentioned the problem as some people burn the folders direct to CD. This will make the files Read-only as I described. Also, utilities & programs that update files while in use will not work properly if retrieved from an unzipped folder on a CD.

Zipped files are not affected whether they be the original downloaded file or subsequently zipped.

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Reply #36 - May 1^st, 2003 at 3:41pm

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Yep, don't move AI aircraft around. In some instances I do move AI aircraft to the hangar. A good example is the Oshkosh AI Traffic that I did. Remember? I had around 30 different aircraft being used, and unless I'm in the Oshkosh area or want to fly those aircraft, I keep them in a seperate hangar Wink

How could I forget Andrew. I'm still impressed with what you did to that airfield. Wink

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Reply #37 - May 1^st, 2003 at 3:52pm

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How could I forget Andrew. I'm still impressed with what you did to that airfield. Wink

I should go back and make it even better.

You may not remember, but I even started a similar project, but I just didn't have the time.

If only days were twice as long.... Roll Eyes

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Reply #38 - May 2^nd, 2003 at 12:04am

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so tell me... i am sorta new at this... what is up with this hangar?? is it an actual thing in the game where u have a virtual hanger??? also... i have a bunch of files that are the same make/tyep but just a diff plane (mainy my star wars type things) is their a way to rename them to here they all show up at the same place???

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Reply #39 - May 2^nd, 2003 at 1:49am

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so tell me... i am sorta new at this... what is up with this hangar?? is it an actual thing in the game where u have a virtual hanger???

The Hangar idea is a way to temporarily hide installed aircraft away from the FS2002 selection menu. They will not work while in the Hangar but can be quickly replaced by dragging them back into the AIRCRAFT folder. This is only necessary if you have an excessive amount of addon aircraft installed & wish to tidy up the selection menu. As you're new at this I suggest forgetting it for now.

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also... i have a bunch of files that are the same make/tyep but just a diff plane (mainy my star wars type things) is their a way to rename them to here they all show up at the same place???

This can be done by editing Aircraft.cfg in Notepad. Look under the [fltsim.x] headers for these entries. Open a default Aircraft.cfg for reference.

ui_manufacturer= is the Aircraft Manufacturer
ui_type= is the Aircraft model
ui_variation= is the Variation

Change them to whatever you wish. If these entries are missing the aircraft will be listed under Unspecified on the FS2002 selection menu. In this case carefully add them in the appropriate places.

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