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Siearra hotel projects (Read 1277 times)
Apr 28
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, 2003 at 4:33pm
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Sierra hotel is a vAir force for FS2002, we fly Russian aircraft on the VATSIM network,
Sierra Design Bureau is currently working on a number of projects to aid us in this.
Aircraft projects currently in production
Sukhoi Su-17K "Fitter"
Designer: Dan Dunn
Sukhoi Su-24M "Fencer"
Designer: Peter Davies
Design Team
Department Head: Chris Larvin
Aircraft Design: Peter Davis, Dan Dunn, David Brice
Scenery Design: David Brice, Jon Watkins
API Design: Chris Larvin, David Brice, Jon Watkins
Sierra Hotel
www.sierrahotel.org
contact, TigerADV@hotmail.com
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Apr 28
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, 2003 at 6:37pm
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Looks interesting, if I had a cable connection I would love to play this Sim more online and a virtual airforce would be along the lines of my preferences. Good luck.
I see you have David Brice onboard, I love his work!
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Apr 28
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awsome, great projects!
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Apr 29
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, 2003 at 8:12am
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nice aircraft and site,but i think that there is a mistake in the title. tovarich = comrade. dont't know ,if it is right,but i think it is used that way...
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Apr 29
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, 2003 at 4:14pm
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Oh my god please oh please turn that su-17 fitter into a su-22 fitter. It's the swing wing version of the su-17 and is so bloody cool. below is a picture of it I will help if I can and create sounds for it if you want. You can't believe how long I've been waiting for an opportunity like this.
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Apr 29
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, 2003 at 6:13pm
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I think I can talk Dan into it.
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Apr 29
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, 2003 at 8:57pm
Jon Watkins
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As the Gent who comissioned this model, I can tell you the Su-17 is Swing wing. The Su-22 was designed pretty much as an export model with varying avioncis and weps fits tot he 17. There will also be a two seat Version coming too. Available from
www.sierrahotel.org
and no doubt the TLUK site.
Sounds would be good, also panel photo's so we can create a panel...
Jon Watkins
CEO
Sierra Hotel
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Apr 29
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, 2003 at 8:59pm
Jon Watkins
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As the Gent who comissioned this model, I can tell you the Su-17 is swing wing and this aircraft will be fully functional. The Su-22 was designed pretty much as an export model with varying avionics and weps fits to the 17. There will also be a two seat Version coming too. Available from
www.sierrahotel.org
and no doubt the TLUK site.
Sounds would be good, also panel photo's so we can create a panel...
Jon Watkins
CEO
Sierra Hotel
Sierra Hotel
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May 4
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, 2003 at 1:09pm
Chris Larvin
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Just an quick update and some more piccies -
Su-17 Fitter - By Daniel Dunn
Su-17 Fitter - By Daniel Dunn
Su-17 Fitter - By Daniel Dunn
Su-17 Fitter - By Daniel Dunn
Su-24 Fencer - by Peter Davies
Su-24 Fencer - by Peter Davies
Su-24 Fencer - by Peter Davies
Kuznetsov Class Carrier - by Chris Larvin
Kuznetsov Class Carrier - by Chris Larvin
Kuznetsov Class Carrier - by Chris Larvin
Typhoon Class Submarine - by Chris Larvin & Jon Watkins
Victor Class Submarine - by Chris Larvin & Jon Watkins
Akula Class Submarine - by Chris Larvin & Jon Watkins
SA-2 Guideline - by Chris Larvin
SA-3 Goa - by Chris Larvin
SA-4 Ganef - by Chris Larvin
SA-5 Gammon - by Chris Larvin
SA-8 Gecko - by Chris Larvin
SA-8 Launcher - by Chris Larvin
SCUD B - by Chris Larvin
Chris Larvin
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May 4
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, 2003 at 1:23pm
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Hi Chris,
those projects look awsome, a couple questions though...
If those carriers are not scenery, how are they going to be used? Player used carriers cannot be landed on.
Cool submarines, do they fully submerge, have a 2d panel, and have a DVC?
What's the SA-8 Rocket Launcher and missles for if you cannot shoot aircrafts down, or have effects show in MP?
Awsome stuff!
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May 4
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, 2003 at 2:22pm
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Oh my god please oh please let me beta test that su-27 and create a soundpack
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May 4
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, 2003 at 2:44pm
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I guess I can ask Dan about it. He's out of town at the moment so when he gets back we'll see.
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May 4
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, 2003 at 3:14pm
Chris Larvin
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Andrew, the carrier and subs will be scenery APIs which will allow for movement of the fleet through scenery updates. The missiles however will be user-piloted, but the SA-8 launcher will be a scenery macro. The idea is to have a laucher placed in the scenery from where the user will "launch". The missiles will each have a fully accurate .air file ensuring that it has the same specifications as their real-world counterparts.
The carrier will be fully-landable and packed with features (night lighting, FS2002 effects, etc), I must stress that this carrier is still under-construction and will continue to be an on-going project even after intial release.
Chris Larvin
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May 4
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, 2003 at 3:16pm
Jon Watkins
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The Su-24 and Su-17 are Aircraft built for Sierra Hotel (FRAAv) These aircraft once completed will be sent to the Gromov Flight Test Center (A division of the FRAAv) and they will be closed to Beta tested by members of that organisation and then open Beta to the TLUK team. If your interested in joining the TLUK team I would suggest contacting the Designer Dan Dunn via his website.
However anyone who is wishing to join the Sierra Design Bureau in a manufacturing capacity (A/C Design, Sounds, Panels, Scenery, API's etc) or you are keen to join the Gromov Test Team you are more than welcome to contact myself at the email address below.
Thank you for your interest and encouraging comments.
Jon Watkins
CEO FRAAv/SH
www.sierrahotel.org
jon@faslane.co.uk
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May 4
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, 2003 at 4:45pm
Blade
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Jon is correct. After Dan finishes it he will send it to their testing center, and the core members of the TLUK team. I.E. Myself, Alan, and Dan of course. Then later to our testing team.
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May 5
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, 2003 at 12:25am
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Andrew, the carrier and subs will be scenery APIs which will allow for movement of the fleet through scenery updates. The missiles however will be user-piloted, but the SA-8 launcher will be a scenery macro. The idea is to have a laucher placed in the scenery from where the user will "launch". The missiles will each have a fully accurate .air file ensuring that it has the same specifications as their real-world counterparts.
The carrier will be fully-landable and packed with features (night lighting, FS2002 effects, etc), I must stress that this carrier is still under-construction and will continue to be an on-going project even after intial release.
ok, I see. Still looks fun!
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May 5
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, 2003 at 2:36am
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oh yes, the 'Kuz' in FS2002!!
If you are building this one, why don't you guys also repaint it as the 'Varyag' which was sold to India (AFAIK)
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May 8
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, 2003 at 6:14am
Iafpilot03
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isn't that lip on the carrier a bit...errr...prone to mishaps? I know that in other objects in FS2K2, like mountains and stuff, climbing them is almost impossible, u go through the mountain with your gear and stuff...
Iafpilot
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May 8
th
, 2003 at 12:39pm
ATI_9700pro
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whow,the typhoon! looks really good so far!
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May 8
th
, 2003 at 6:21pm
Chris L
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oh yes, the 'Kuz' in FS2002!!
If you are building this one, why don't you guys also repaint it as the 'Varyag' which was sold to India (AFAIK)
Ivan, the Ukrainians unsuccessfully attempted to sell it to numerous countries such as India and China but with no success. However it has been bought by a company who wish to turn the imcomplete carrier (missing engine and rudder) into an entertainment complex and casino. It was towed from the Black Sea to Macau where it is now anchored!
Quote:
isn't that lip on the carrier a bit...errr...prone to mishaps? I know that in other objects in FS2K2, like mountains and stuff, climbing them is almost impossible, u go through the mountain with your gear and stuff...
Iafpilot
Correct iafpilot, FS won't currently allow for inclided surfaces however I was thinking could this be resolved by some sort of mesh? Have to look into it.
Oh and some more previews
Tu-22 - by Daniel Dunn
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Best regards,
Chris larvin
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May 9
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, 2003 at 3:27am
Iafpilot03
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well,I hope u get that fixed, btw, those "TU-22" shots you posted are actually TU-26 shots (some call it TU-22M, but that's just a common mistake
) The Tu-22, tho similiar in shape, had two engines in the aft part of the fuselage, by the tail, and did not have variable geometry wings, the -26 is basically a highly evolved -22
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May 9
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, 2003 at 5:00pm
Chris L
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Thanks for the correction Iafpilot03...
heres some info on the Tu-22M -
Contrary to previously held beliefs the Backfire is not a derivative of the Tu-22 Blinder, although the Tupolev Bureau deliberately fostered the impression that it was in order to aviod having to obtain the approval of the Communist Part Central Committee to start a new aircraft development program. The original design (Backfire-A) underwent major modifications and re-emerged as the Tu-22M-2 Backfire-B. About 400 Tu-22Ms were produced, 240 of them being M-2s/3s. The latest version, the M-3 has a reduced defence armament and the flight refuelling probe has been deleted.
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May 9
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, 2003 at 5:43pm
Iafpilot03
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seems my info's a bit outdated...lol
well, I guess if it's a new aircraft altogether, they sould have kept the Tu-26 designation (at least outside the USSR)
Iafpilot
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May 11
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oooer i dont even know which one that tupolevski is... lol..
But ja as for the fitter, being as Jon commissioned it then it goes to his team first- then mine to play around with. It's an SH aircraft, y'see.. 8)
Any questions about either of them, email me.
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May 12
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, 2003 at 3:02am
Iafpilot03
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I've done somre reading on the matter.
turns out the designations thing wasn't really meant to trick the guys
inside
the USSR, but rather the folks over at NATO. Keeping the designation 'Tu-22' was meant to make the western world see it as an 'upgrade' if you will, to the current design, when in fact, it far surpassed the Tu-22 when it comes to speed, versatility, payload, and range.
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