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Apr 26th, 2003 at 8:32pm

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I managed to get another leg done yesterday. It's available via my link as usual. The report contains two embarressing admissions  Embarrassed about my complete lack of expertise as a pilot, so you should get a good laugh out of those if nothing else! Roll Eyes Grin

One thing I've done is added the pre-booked destinations not yet visited, to the map. They're on there as bright blue dots. They don't show up well in places sadly, but they are there if they're in the pre-booked list in the flight log.

One more point: If you've made a booking and you don't see it in the list, please post again. I'm not sure, but I've a feeling I lost one or two when my posts went West a while back.
 

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Reply #1 - Apr 26th, 2003 at 8:56pm

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Awesome stuff. That approach sounded pretty hellish....I tried doing an approach like that, just to see whether I could.

I could not! Need more practice at bad landings.

Also, not meaning to nitpick, but I think it's Antonio Carlos Jobim Airport in Rio, named after the Brazilian bossa nova/jazz composer. Smiley
 
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Reply #2 - Apr 26th, 2003 at 9:11pm

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Awesome stuff. That approach sounded pretty hellish....I tried doing an approach like that, just to see whether I could.

I could not! Need more practice at bad landings.

Also, not meaning to nitpick, but I think it's Antonio Carlos Jobim Airport in Rio, named after the Brazilian bossa nova/jazz composer. Smiley


Since I arrived in South America I've been getting a lot of practice at bad landings! Roll Eyes Grin

Feel free to nitpick - it's the only way I spot my typos! Grin Fixed now thanks. Smiley

By the way - that was leg 11 you were reading... lol.
 

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Reply #3 - Apr 26th, 2003 at 9:18pm

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Nice bit of flying there Wink

Only one suggestion at the end of each report, maybe you could post departure and Arrival times, and total flight time.

No offence, but I just looked at your leg 12 and I have no idea of how long it took ??? Embarrassed

btw, you have the little blue dot for the pre-booked visit of me Cheesy
 
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Reply #4 - Apr 26th, 2003 at 9:34pm

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Always a good idea to do a complete thorough preflight even if it is a sim. I found a joystick glitch that way when the alerions didn't respond. Simple restart of my joystick app. fixed it so no mechanic's fees but that's better than taking off and finding out you can't turn.

I don't know whether you particularly want to fly to only default airports but I found an add on that gives you airports in Antarctica. The filename is ATAK2_A.zip by Bill Freeborn in the Scenery section here at Simviation.
 

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Nice bit of flying there Wink

Only one suggestion at the end of each report, maybe you could post departure and Arrival times, and total flight time.

No offence, but I just looked at your leg 12 and I have no idea of how long it took ??? Embarrassed

btw, you have the little blue dot for the pre-booked visit of me Cheesy


Take a look at the Flight Log link - the distances and times are all in there. Wink

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Always a good idea to do a complete thorough preflight even if it is a sim. I found a joystick glitch that way when the alerions didn't respond. Simple restart of my joystick app. fixed it so no mechanic's fees but that's better than taking off and finding out you can't turn.

I don't know whether you particularly want to fly to only default airports but I found an add on that gives you airports in Antarctica. The filename is ATAK2_A.zip by Bill Freeborn in the Scenery section here at Simviation.


You're absolutely right about the pre-flight and I will make sure I do a proper one next time!


Thanks for the info on Antarctica. I'm by no means constrained to default airports although the target for the flight was to take in the most Northern and Southern airports by defult.
I haven't checked that file but if it's the one I think it is, it contains fictional airports. I don't have many rules with my flightsim, but where scenery is concerned, that's a big no no for me. I'll download it anyway just in case. Smiley
 

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Reply #6 - Apr 26th, 2003 at 11:00pm

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The way I understood the Readme file, the airports are fictional but they correspond to actual stations. Most small scientific stations there wouldn't have a dedicated runway. They'd just use any flat smooth surface nearby to land a ski equipped plane (which wouldn't work with FS2002). I think he also used some artistic license in the buildings and looks of the stations.

"The names of the airports in the A/FD correspond to the actual names of the scientific stations.  The stated coordinates are for the respective airports with the stations being in near proximity.  Geographic positioning is as accurate as possible, but is governed by the default scenery.  There has been no attempt to represent any station, as such.  Beyond the station names and their approximate coordinates, you are subject to my imagination."

Don't know if that's realistic enough for your flight rules but since you particularly wanted to visit the farthest North and South I thought I'd give you a heads up. I think there was a glitch that kept the South Pole base from being anywhere near the real South Pole but I measured the farthest South one the add on puts in and it's about 650 miles away although this might be a bad time to fly down there with Winter coming on.

 

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The way I understood the Readme file, the airports are fictional but they correspond to actual stations. Most small scientific stations there wouldn't have a dedicated runway. They'd just use any flat smooth surface nearby to land a ski equipped plane (which wouldn't work with FS2002). I think he also used some artistic license in the buildings and looks of the stations.

"The names of the airports in the A/FD correspond to the actual names of the scientific stations.  The stated coordinates are for the respective airports with the stations being in near proximity.  Geographic positioning is as accurate as possible, but is governed by the default scenery.  There has been no attempt to represent any station, as such.  Beyond the station names and their approximate coordinates, you are subject to my imagination."

Don't know if that's realistic enough for your flight rules but since you particularly wanted to visit the farthest North and South I thought I'd give you a heads up. I think there was a glitch that kept the South Pole base from being anywhere near the real South Pole but I measured the farthest South one the add on puts in and it's about 650 miles away although this might be a bad time to fly down there with Winter coming on.



Thanks for taking the trouble to look into this Matt.

If the places actually exist, then I don't mind artistic licence in portraying them.

The South Pole itself, in common with the North Pole, is unreachable in FS2002. In fact it doesn't exist within the model at all because of the design.

I think I'm going to go with this. My next leg is down to Guardiamarina Zanatu in Chile which is the most Southern default airport in FS2002, but if I'm going to set myself these kind of targets, then I think I ought to try and achieve them. So I'll get the scenery and, after Chile, I'll be putting my woolly gloves on to head down to which ever of these add-on stations is furthest South.

If I subsequently start talking in a high pitched voice and keeping the company of a brass monkey, you're to blame! Wink Grin
 

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Reply #8 - Apr 27th, 2003 at 1:24am

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Take a look at the Flight Log link - the distances and times are all in there. Wink


Sorry, never noticed that page Embarrassed
 
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Reply #9 - Apr 27th, 2003 at 3:25am

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Matt - I'm gonna make you come with me!

It's 2,794nm almost due South from Guardiamarina Zanatu to Vostok/Ross Island      (AAVK) which is the most Southern of the new add-on stations as modelled.

That's at least 2 legs each way and what am I going to have to look at while I'm flying it? Ice. LOTS and LOTS of Ice!!!

You can fly it - I'll be sleeping on the back seats. Grin

 

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Reply #10 - Apr 27th, 2003 at 4:20am

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Nice stuff John. I was pretty peeved about the missing statue too. That and the cable car with James Bond fighting Jaws (Moonraker) being absent!
Err why didn't you check the flaps sooner?

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Nice stuff John. I was pretty peeved about the missing statue too. That and the cable car with James Bond fighting Jaws (Moonraker) being absent!
Err why didn't you check the flaps sooner?

Ozzy Grin


I knew the statue was missing in the default scenery but I put some add-on scenery in for Rio which is why I was even more disappointed than usual.

As to the flaps.......errrr....well....... I was so busy looking for the statue that I didn't have time to look at the panel!

(That's my hideously feeble excuse and I'm sticking to it!! Wink Grin)
 

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Reply #12 - Apr 27th, 2003 at 5:52am

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I have just caught up with Legs 11 and 12.

Wow.  I'm sitting in my study perfectly safe but sweating with all the suppressed fear of having to make that Rio landing myself.

As for the flaps problem, I have to admit that I did the same once with airbrakes.  I was doing an around Europe flight in a harrier.  Landed with airbrakes on, taxied to fueling point, re-fueled and saved then went to bed.

The next day my airspeed was appaling at full throttle and I had the range of an inebriated gnat.  It took me two hours to work out what I'd done. Embarrassed

Good luck with lucky Leg 13 tee hee hee.

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I have just caught up with Legs 11 and 12.

Wow.  I'm sitting in my study perfectly safe but sweating with all the suppressed fear of having to make that Rio landing myself.

As for the flaps problem, I have to admit that I did the same once with airbrakes.  I was doing an around Europe flight in a harrier.  Landed with airbrakes on, taxied to fueling point, re-fueled and saved then went to bed.

The next day my airspeed was appaling at full throttle and I had the range of an inebriated gnat.  It took me two hours to work out what I'd done. Embarrassed

Good luck with lucky Leg 13 tee hee hee.

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Nice to know I'm not the only one. You must have been looking for that statue too I bet! Grin

The fact that leg 13 is coming up hadn't escaped my attention. Particularly as I'm going to be landing at an airport with no navaids or ILS, inevitably low on fuel, and probably with a bunch of penguins sitting on the runway...

Must speak to Pete about getting a "quivering with fear" smiley made available... Shocked
 

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I once did the same thing, but it was the autopilot that was left on and I just couldn't figure why the aircraft wouldn't respong to the controlls Embarrassed

It took a couple system restarts before I finally figured it out. Boy did I feel stupid!
 
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I once did the same thing, but it was the autopilot that was left on and I just couldn't figure why the aircraft wouldn't respong to the controlls Embarrassed

It took a couple system restarts before I finally figured it out. Boy did I feel stupid!


I'm glad I'm not alone.  I usually knock the auto pilot on when I toggle the Shift + Z information.

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Thanks for the booking here in Harare mate!!

Let me know when you're coming so that I can come out and fetch you!  I might just be doing a PPL exam at the airport the day you arrive!

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Thanks for the booking here in Harare mate!!

Let me know when you're coming so that I can come out and fetch you!  I might just be doing a PPL exam at the airport the day you arrive!

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You're very welcome!

In the course of putting the pre-booked stuff on the map, I did a bit of calculating. North West USA is going to be fun. I can get about 6 destinations visited in one leg there! LOL

However Pitcairn Islands is going to be a doody. I'm either going to have to head out from Chile and come back again, or do a Pacific tour and take in Hawaii at  the same time - which will be  lot of mileage. Either way, I'll be seeing a lot of water!

Incidentally there's no airport on Pitcairn Island. I know it's very small and not having seen it in FS2002, (no telling me please!), I'm unsure whether I could actually land on it if I wanted to. It depends on the terrain of course as well as the size. It's questions like that that keep it interesting when I'm covering hundreds of miles of ocean though. Smiley
 

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Matt - I'm gonna make you come with me!

It's 2,794nm almost due South from Guardiamarina Zanatu to Vostok/Ross Island      (AAVK) which is the most Southern of the new add-on stations as modelled.

That's at least 2 legs each way and what am I going to have to look at while I'm flying it? Ice. LOTS and LOTS of Ice!!!

You can fly it - I'll be sleeping on the back seats. Grin



You are gonna have a long wait for me to catch up then. I'm almost on the other side of the planet right now in Choibalsan Mongolia.

You might have more than ice to look at. I tried starting a flight from one of the bases in that add on pack and was surprised to see that MS modeled the Aurora Australis (Southern Lights).
 

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Atleast the Northern & Southern Lights are modeled into the simulator so theres something to look at when there's no scenery Wink

btw, you should install a cd player into the cockpit, that will give you something to do on those long boring flights Wink
 
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I actually have quite a good one, but the problem is I've no room to put it on the panel LOL.

However, I'm currently working on a new(ish) way of displaying additional windows for the B-52 panel. If I can get it to work as I want it to, I'll apply it to the Baron and be able to extend the Baron panel in any direction I like.

Nothing's certain at this stage though, and if i do manage it, it will be after I've returned from Antarctica so it looks like I'm stuck with the Southern lights for entertainment for now LOL.
 

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I actually have quite a good one, but the problem is I've no room to put it on the panel LOL.

However, I'm currently working on a new(ish) way of displaying additional windows for the B-52 panel. If I can get it to work as I want it to, I'll apply it to the Baron and be able to extend the Baron panel in any direction I like.


Out of curiosity, which CD Player Gauge are you using?

What's the 'new' way of displaying additional windows in a panel? I'm curious because I have a few panels that the window slots 1-9 are all filled up!
 
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Out of curiosity, which CD Player Gauge are you using?

What's the 'new' way of displaying additional windows in a panel? I'm curious because I have a few panels that the window slots 1-9 are all filled up!


I'll have to find the gauge again. I don't have it loaded in at the moment.

If you've ever seen Fly!, which I had at one time, that's the basis for the system. Although I've always thought the panels in Fly!! were much better than FS2002, the flaw (for me) lay in the fact that most of the views didn't give you any external view, meaning you constantly had to hop back to the front view to avoid crashing lol.

If I get the basic mechanics of the movement to work properly, I'm hoping to overcome that by moving half a screen in each direction rather than a full one.
 

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Now you lost me, cuz i've never used FLY! before Embarrassed
 
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I'll see if I can get it to work first, but if I can, the real benefit lies in being able to gain a lot more surface area for the gauges to go on, allowing for greater detail. Vacant space will cease to be a problem. It's really only a different way of doing what a lot of panels currently do already, but I'm just hoping to use it with slightly different visual results than normal in terms of the views.

 

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Great Pics Tipster!
I am headed that too (eventually) so I will be closely monitoring your trip Grin

One thing though...if your flaps were down and you were trying to get to cruising speed, would you not have got a warning of some sort to tell you that the flaps were down? Something similar to when you drop the landing gear and your speed is too fast??????

Just wonderin'
 

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Tipster, could you put your web-site link in your posts about the trip updates?  I enjoy reading the posts and then want to go directly to the site, but didn't have it book marked and then I have to go find it each time.  Thanks. Great trip and good write up/pics of the trip.  Has been interesting to read and keep up with.  One of these days when I have a little more FS experience and learn to do screen shots, I may try it.  Thanks again for sharing the trip and all of your knowledge here at simviation.
 

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Jerry, click on the banner in Tipster's signature. It will take you directly to his RTW site Wink
 
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One thing though...if your flaps were down and you were trying to get to cruising speed, would you not have got a warning of some sort to tell you that the flaps were down? Something similar to when you drop the landing gear and your speed is too fast??????
Just wonderin'


Nothing built in to do that (I don't think Baron designers didn't expected their planes to be flown by idiots like me Grin) but it wouldn't be difficult to code an annunciator warning light for it.

Despite my best intentions, I've been sidetracked into coding up some upgraded gauges for my Baron at the moment. I've just replaced the fuel computer and bank angle gauges with ones that a) work as they should and b) match the Garmin stack colour coding. A guy called Chris Reed very kindly helped me out by doing the XML syntax for the logic I provided.

I might perhaps add that annunciator - just in case I get lazy again LOL.  I had an idea for another one I wanted but it's escaped me now. I've got to remember to write these things down... Roll Eyes Grin


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Tipster, could you put your web-site link in your posts about the trip updates?  I enjoy reading the posts and then want to go directly to the site, but didn't have it book marked and then I have to go find it each time.  Thanks. Great trip and good write up/pics of the trip.  Has been interesting to read and keep up with.  One of these days when I have a little more FS experience and learn to do screen shots, I may try it.  Thanks again for sharing the trip and all of your knowledge here at simviation.


Andrew has kindly covered the link issue I think. Smiley

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Since getting FS2002, I've wondered about moving the panels. In Orbiter, on the ships that have panels, you can use the curser arrow buttons to scroll the panels right, left, up and down. This also gives you a full view out the cockpit window when you need it. Of course since I'm not a programmer I'd have no idea how to do it but it's something for others to think about (who can program it). You'd increase the available panel space by quite a lot.
 

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Since getting FS2002, I've wondered about moving the panels. In Orbiter, on the ships that have panels, you can use the curser arrow buttons to scroll the panels right, left, up and down. This also gives you a full view out the cockpit window when you need it. Of course since I'm not a programmer I'd have no idea how to do it but it's something for others to think about (who can program it). You'd increase the available panel space by quite a lot.


If it's possible in FS2002 (and I doubt it is) no-one has come up with a way to do it yet with a 2D panel. With the advent of clickable V.C. panels in FS2004, the whole question could become adademic, but I'm wondering about the quality of the imagery. If it's as blurry as it appears in FS2002 V.C.s, it's not going to get a lot of use from me.

My own proposed method is a half way house. I'm working on hot spot movement between new fixed views that effectively move the point of view half a screen. In the Baron, I'd only want left, right, down and up, but in the B-52, I'm exploring having a number of views for the bombardier, navigation and possibly radio operator stations as well. All speculative at the moment, but that's the way I'm heading.


 

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