My first flight simulator was on the Commodore 16.  You had to take off, fly over a mountain range and then land at the airport.  There were no instructions, you just had to see what went wrong during each flight and correct it next time.

It took me about thirty attempts to get the damned thing off the ground.

The next was Overlord for the amiga, still a great game.  I have FS95 somewhere and have recently been given FS5 on CD-ROM!!!

Will

It seems to me that after reading all these posts that the underlying passion is for flight(obvious innit)and perhaps Rajeev doesn't share quite the same view.

What's MS train sim like? Maybe he should have bought that instead?

It seems to me that after reading all these posts that the underlying passion is for flight(obvious innit)and perhaps Rajeev doesn't share quite the same view.

What's MS train sim like? Maybe he should have bought that instead?

I don't believe that was the point being made. The point was all the people claiming greatness in this sim, and it wasn't as great as this person thought. I can't say I blame them. Yes, it's great, cool graphics, etc., but riddled with bugs. Nice work MS. Next time test your work!

And if one thinks about the price and then add how many were sold, it was too damn expensive. Do you really think MS pays their programmers that well? LOL

Hey Pissmeoff, you wouldn't happen to be an ex-MS programmer, would you?!

You say you like the graphics in 2k2, but that it's "riddled" with bugs......what bugs are those? I've had absolutely no problems running this game on my relatively slow system. I'd refrain from calling it perfect; I'm sure some people do experience problems. As far as the cost issue; looks like most people here think this sim is a good deal.

You are of course, entitled to express your opinion, however, it's clear that your and Rajeev's overall dissatisfaction with 2k2 puts you in the minority.

Hey Pissmeoff, you wouldn't happen to be an ex-MS programmer, would you?!

LOL, no can't say I am. I do program though. Don't get me wrong-there isn't a night that goes by that I don't play this sim. It's one of those games that I made a really good investment on, unlike others where once I'm finished it, I uninstall and put it away for a few months.

As for the bugs. I like to keep separate log files. In fs2000 I never had this problem, but with fs2k2, I do. That isn't right in itself. One should be moving forward with a new program, not backward. On to the log files. I like to have a logbook for the 747, 737, Learjet, helicopter and cessnas. Let's say I quit out of the sim and my logbook is the 737 logbook. I go into the sim, create a flight for the 747, select options/logbook and select the 747 logbook. Guess what? When I finish and I log my time, which is set up to do so when I exit the sim, the time is in the 737 logbook, not the 747. I consider this a bug. Again, fs2000 never did this. So, if I want to do a flight in the 747 I have to select the 747 logbook, quit out of the sim, and then start it back up and do my flight. There are some other bugs that one must look, but they are there. For instance, Meigs field. Start a flight at meigs, but just look around a little. If you look closely at the water, it goes uphill! I consider that a bug-programming error, what have you. There's plenty more areas that are like this. I forget exactly where they are, but they are there. I'm being picky, I know. So, I'm not really in the minority, I'm being more of a realist. MS needs some competition so that they will pick up their socks and stop putting out things that have problems/bugs. It's a damn shame because this sim is a great piece of work, and MS isn't the only company out there that's all about the dollar bill. I'm a perfectionist, which is part of my problem. When I do a job, I do not say, oh that will do. I spend plenty of sleepless nights working on programs until I get the damn thing right. I get more satisfaction knowing that someone paid me to get the program that they paid me for-one that works!

All I can say is that I'm satisfied. It's not perfect but it "works for me".

It works for me too. Although seeing tress off the ground and some buildings in some really weird places is a little distracting. Now, I must go fly!

So then,I gather noone has used MS train sim. I know I haven't-I've been flying!

OK,so FS isn't perfect but I've got about 1200hrs time up and at $50 for the program I ain't complaining about the few bugs I  do come across!!